{The following is an extract from an exchange on the Mopar politics forum.}
It wasn't about going after Osama bin Laden or the Taliban. It was about building a natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan that the Taliban rejected. Moreover, after 9/11, the Taliban offered to hand over OBL, providing the US offered proof that he did it. The US didn't, and the FBI still hasn't listed OBL on its most-wanted list for 9/11, because of a "lack of evidence", their words, not mine.
On the Iraq front, invasion was on the table before the neo-cons even took office. They were looking for any excuse and tried to make them complicit for 9/11. The prize was their oil fields. Another prize was also establishing a permanent military presence in the Middle East, because the Saudi's (and OBL himself) did not want US military forces in the holy lands any more. (Whatever OBL wants, OBL gets. He's one of our assets, all the way up to 9/11... and beyond his likely death probably more than a few years ago.)
All that nonsense you write about UN resolutions and Saddam being in violation? He wasn't. And in fact, he complied! He did let weapons inspectors back in before the deadline, gave them access, etc. The UN weapons inspectors themselves begged for more time. But No-oooo! Bush was going to invade Iraq for its oil fields to divy up and give to his oil crony backers no matter what.
BTW, where are those weapons of mass destruction?
Bush needed 9/11, because without it, America never would have supported invasion of Afghanistan, period. And Iraq was highly questionable as well, because Saddam was very much contained in the no-fly-zone.
Bush needed 9/11, because he needed to pave over for good-and-gone the evidence of the misdeeds of his father's administration coming due, as well as the Pentagon's unaccounted for $2.3 trillion in transactions and many other corporate criminal cases against his loyal supporters (Enron anyone?)
Bush needed 9/11, because there was insurance money to scoop up, insider trading to take advantage of, and the US economy to take down several pegs. Foreclosures and bankruptcies are bad for real people, but not for those with means who are happy to buy up for pennies on the dollar real brick-and-mortar establishments (and not silly paper stocks). Yes, I'm saying the pile-driving of our economy was planned and desired by those elite who pull Bush & Cheney's strings, because they are globalist, not patriotic nationalist (and certainly not simplistic loyal football fanatics.)
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2011-01-11
2010-12-30
A-Body Mopar 9/11
I will try to be gentle with the uninformed (and purposely misinformed) sheep.
It is the truth that I am after. If I am mistaken on any point, I will admit I am wrong and apologize for steering you wrong. In fact, I will gladly eat my tin-foil hat if proven that "by golly, there was absolutely nothing fishy about 9/11 and no reason for a new investigation."
Discussion participants beware. Those who accuse others of wearing tin-foil hats should be prepared to seriously consider my propositions, act as responsible & respectful adults, and if warranted by the overwhelming evidence, eat that very same hat.
So, who wants to see how far down the rabbit hole really goes? Can you guess the twin rabbit holes that I champion?
In making my case for 9/11 conspiracy, let me first note that the official govt conspiracy theory (OGCT) has not been proven. They haven't made their case, and their arguments are full of inconsistencies, holes, and omissions. The govt has mounds of evidence that they could have released and made public a long time ago and put many outrageous conspiracy theories to rest. But they didn't and haven't and won't, because the evidence doesn't support it. The videos from the gas station and hotel come to mind. Or how about the videos from the airports that conclusively prove exactly who went through security and who boarded the planes? I've never seen all 19, just 2 or 3. For these reasons and many others, the named hijackers (patsies) are in doubt.
Boxcutters? Mention boxcutters in support of the OGCT and you forfeit. Only one reported telephone call mentioned boxcutters. The problems are: (1) seat back phones on that plane weren't operational, (2) cellphones don't work at high altitude, and (3) the trial of so-and-so (whose name I can't spell at the moment) brought forth evidence that the money-call lasted 0 seconds -- never connected. No boxcutters, and TSA now confiscates nail clippers and toothpaste and has you walk without shoes to have pictures taken of your junk if they don't cop a feel as well.
Know who Phillip Zelikow is? While at Harvard he actually wrote about the use, and misuse, of history in policymaking. As he noted in his own words, “contemporary” history is “defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public’s presumptions about its immediate past. The idea of ‘public presumption’,” he explained, “is akin to [the] notion of ‘public myth’ but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word ‘myth.’ Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community.”
Dr. Phillip Zelikow is the guy who wrote The 9/11 Commission Report and was an expert in how to misuse public trust and create PUBLIC MYTHS.
For those patriots and Christians who believe and support the OGCT on 9/11 as the God's honest truth, let this be the appetizer into their bitter meal about how our US govt knowingly deceived and manipulated us.
It is the truth that I am after. If I am mistaken on any point, I will admit I am wrong and apologize for steering you wrong. In fact, I will gladly eat my tin-foil hat if proven that "by golly, there was absolutely nothing fishy about 9/11 and no reason for a new investigation."
Discussion participants beware. Those who accuse others of wearing tin-foil hats should be prepared to seriously consider my propositions, act as responsible & respectful adults, and if warranted by the overwhelming evidence, eat that very same hat.
So, who wants to see how far down the rabbit hole really goes? Can you guess the twin rabbit holes that I champion?
In making my case for 9/11 conspiracy, let me first note that the official govt conspiracy theory (OGCT) has not been proven. They haven't made their case, and their arguments are full of inconsistencies, holes, and omissions. The govt has mounds of evidence that they could have released and made public a long time ago and put many outrageous conspiracy theories to rest. But they didn't and haven't and won't, because the evidence doesn't support it. The videos from the gas station and hotel come to mind. Or how about the videos from the airports that conclusively prove exactly who went through security and who boarded the planes? I've never seen all 19, just 2 or 3. For these reasons and many others, the named hijackers (patsies) are in doubt.
Boxcutters? Mention boxcutters in support of the OGCT and you forfeit. Only one reported telephone call mentioned boxcutters. The problems are: (1) seat back phones on that plane weren't operational, (2) cellphones don't work at high altitude, and (3) the trial of so-and-so (whose name I can't spell at the moment) brought forth evidence that the money-call lasted 0 seconds -- never connected. No boxcutters, and TSA now confiscates nail clippers and toothpaste and has you walk without shoes to have pictures taken of your junk if they don't cop a feel as well.
Know who Phillip Zelikow is? While at Harvard he actually wrote about the use, and misuse, of history in policymaking. As he noted in his own words, “contemporary” history is “defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public’s presumptions about its immediate past. The idea of ‘public presumption’,” he explained, “is akin to [the] notion of ‘public myth’ but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word ‘myth.’ Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community.”
Dr. Phillip Zelikow is the guy who wrote The 9/11 Commission Report and was an expert in how to misuse public trust and create PUBLIC MYTHS.
For those patriots and Christians who believe and support the OGCT on 9/11 as the God's honest truth, let this be the appetizer into their bitter meal about how our US govt knowingly deceived and manipulated us.
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