{mcb: Not all of the reference links back to Truth & Shadows will work, due to moderation efforts by Mr. Craig McKee, to whom no ill will is thought for his justified and rightful actions.}
x161 Señor El Once : spamming the forum
Dear Mr. Sims,
So noted. I wonder where Mr. Rogue is?
Rather than threading your comments of today into comments from end of last month, here's some advice.
Copy the words of a participant to whom you want to respond and paste them into another application, like Notepad or Word. [It can be helpful to copy time stamps and URLs at the same time.] Save this as a source file. Then save it again as the starting point for your response. Put appropriate formatting around the words quoted from others. [I use <blockquote></blockquote> to delineate the words of others, although "" and/or <i></i> can work well too.] Then author your response in between the quoted passages. Save it. Then copy this response and paste it in as a new comment.
Repeat for each participant to whom you want to respond.
The point is, you're coming across as "spamming the forum" with your rapid fire, twitter-style comments all over the place.
Be patient. Focus. Gather and then take your time authoring your response. It isn't as if anybody has been waiting with baited breath for your words; they're already two articles down the road.
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x162 Señor El Once : very personal reasons, namely the spamming of my inbox
Dear Mr. Bob Sims,
Out of very personal reasons -- namely the spamming of my inbox --, I kindly request that you change your tactics.
I can find the humor in your accomplishment so far.
At 326 total comments, you've managed to bump your contribution to 88 (27%). You've knocked Mr. Hufferd into third position with 62 (19%). But Mr. Rogue still leads with ~110 (33.7%). You three alone now amount to 79% of the participation: a three prong pincer.
But that doesn't mean I'm laughing... after my phone suffers massive downloads and after cleaning out its inbox.
Going forward if you are earnest in your efforts to engage others in a serious discussion, you will consider my advice from August 21, 2014 at 6:09 pm and then make these modifications: "Gather then Sow (Once)."
Before I explain what that means, tactically your productive efforts were rude and obnoxious to all who ever participated and likely subscribed, and this rating comes before any consideration of your content or position. Were it not for your previous involvement in the conversations, your fresh "overlay" of shot-gun comments to nearly all dangling points of previous discussions could be labeled a bad-ass Sunstein technique to re-write the tenor of the entire forum.
Assuming the earnestness of the goals of your endeavors, a more productive way to re-channel your energy to achieve them is "Gather Then Sow (Once)."
Gather off-line in a text file all of the posted words of a participant (or participants) to whom you want to respond. Remember to capture who said it, when (e.g., time stamp), and where (e.g., the URL) in your due diligence. Save this as a source file. Who knows when you might want to reference it later?
Hints on Gathering:
(1) Doing a Save-As from your browser can capture everything all in one go, but will require more effort later to extract and clean-up for other purposes.
(2) A useful technique is to highlight/copy the displayed browser text and then paste into Notepad or an editor. This will strip out formatting and links that something like Word can preserve in a paste operation (unless you do a paste-special.)
(3) Firefox, at least, allows you to highlight text in a browser and then right-click "view source" that can be copied and then pasted into your authoring application.
Once this source material is gathered and saved in one file, make a copy of this file to serve as the starting point for your well-thought-out rebuttal. Organize it and trim it down to the passages from the participant(s) in question to which you'll be responding. Put appropriate formatting (e.g., double quotation marks, HTML mark-up) around each individual quotation passage. In between each quotation that tweaks your ire, have a field day with your commentary!!! Remember to attribute from whom each quotation comes with the time-stamp (and/or URL if you aren't using your two freebies).
Once this gathering has been consolidated and then expanded with your words of wisdom, Sow It (Once). Post it to the forum as a single comment top-level comment or as a single comment to each participant being addressed.
"Gather then sow (Once)."
Everyone's inbox [mobile gmail] will thank you.
P.S. Just because I am offering top-dollar advice to you (and all others) on how to improve your game and avoid blatant spamming actions that could foul you out, ...
Just because I am #1 on Mr. Rogue's shit list and you're feeding him some of his own medicine,...
Does ~not~ mean that I am voicing agreement with your content or position, Mr. Sim.
For the brief moments when my eyes stopped spinning from scrolling through your dump-truck of comments on my phone, I was not in agreement with everything I spot-check read. I had much less disagreement with -- Surprise, surprise! -- Mr. Rogue's position and comments... Exceptions are Mr. Rogue's comments already flagged legitimately as "bullying".
Because Mr. Ruff and Mr. Rogue one-forum-over have been using their pincer to "charge [me, SEO] of being an agent of agitprop," I will take humorous advantage of it here.
LISTEN UP EVERYBODY!!! I'm pulling Q-Group rank!!!
To all active Sunstein Agents: Consider the above "Gather and Sow (Once)" an order! It'll make all of your arguments against other participants' point much easier to follow on a mobile device through email notification, because it demands that you provide context!
This is not Twitter! This is not Facebook! This is Truth & Shadows and demands a higher level of discourse!
Write off line and contemplate well before posting! Do not be in a hurry to post!
Agent Sims: 80 comments in 24 hours is unacceptable spamming that outs your ass if it doesn't eventually bounce your ass! An easily avoidable technicality is gonna defeat the agenda!
P.P.S. [ON-TOPIC COMMENT] I ain't no god-damn expert on Gaza, Israel, Palistine, and shit, but like most participants, I have a high school diploma (plus or minus). Israel is fucked up and is fucking up, despite the PR spin. As an empathetic person, Israel's over-blown over-reaction disgusts me and has me siding with the underdog. Israel fucks everyone else up, too. [If the American government were to conspire to stage event(s) to move its nation in radical directions ala PNAC "Rebuilding America's Defenses" and wanted to plausibly deny its finger-prints in the false-flag actions, Israel's Mossad would top the outsourcing list to help.]
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x163 HR2_Lite : interesting questions
2014-08-26
HR2_Lite
August 26, 2014 at 9:35 pm
What are your views on what all the many, many DUMBs and bunkers that are being/have been revealed around the world in the past few years are for? And should this concern us in light of this rapid increase in the police state and control grid, plus the increase in disaster movies as of late and the clearly blatantly obvious inclusion of masonic/esoteric symbolism in all manner of media as of late? Do our leaders know something is coming that we dont, or might they be planning something special for us? If the DIA is any indication of what is to come, it is somewhat troubling, is it not?
x164 Señor El Once : BTW, I am a Mason
Dear Mr. HR2_Lite,
You ask interesting questions on August 26, 2014 at 9:35 pm.
What are your views on what all the many, many DUMBs and bunkers that are being/have been revealed around the world in the past few years are for? And should this concern us in light of this rapid increase in the police state and control grid, plus the increase in disaster movies as of late and the clearly blatantly obvious inclusion of masonic/esoteric symbolism in all manner of media as of late? Do our leaders know something is coming that we dont, or might they be planning something special for us? If the DIA is any indication of what is to come, it is somewhat troubling, is it not?
The movies are conditioning us. Acceptance of the existence of entities superior to ourselves having string pulling (3- or 4-finger) hands in our affairs might be one.
Although one could say that media has been training us into violence against such meddling alien entities, the PR reverse-psychology school of thought on this suggests that by watching such action-packed thrillers involving alien entities, we have subconsciously already "lived it or done it" [with really high body counts]. Such experiences -- even if vicarious through gorgous heroic actors and green-screen and not real -- are registered in the mind, presents one course of action leaving openings for alternatives, and thus maybe already passify us into "non-action or no over-reaction" through such an alternative.
"... the clearly blatantly obvious inclusion of masonic/esoteric symbolism in all manner of media as of late?" It is an age-old gimmick or cheap-trick meant to provide depth to the significance or meaning of some artistic work without actually having its inclusion say what the significance or meaning are. It also helps in a false-flag sense to point the fingers at scapegoats (some age-old) and away from the true power centers. Dates with seeming numerical or astrological significance for events? Makes it something easy to plan to while also tarnishing "faiths" or "schools of thought" that hold such dates sacred.
BTW, I am a Mason. Sure, there was a time (with a peak in the 1930's or so) when many of the movers and shakers of a community were active in the Masonic fraternity and when such affiliation had greasing abilities to personal or business ventures. Today the same could be said about any social organization, from church to country club memberships. [My eye doctor, the contractor who re-modeled our kitchen, and the painter for my house, I met through my fitness club. A handyman, a family lawyer, and a personal trainer were some connections made through lodge.]
Differences between regions, differences between lodges, differences between individuals determine what influence such affiliation might have beyond the lodge walls and where "infiltration and subversion" might have been ripe in various eras. Old stories of Masonic influences from centuries past, I don't doubt, but doesn't make it a given today.
I'm reminded of what a former Nazi Youth, Nazi soldier, and POW by the Russians after WWII told me when I was a college student and he was in retirement. When the Sea Scouts were disbanded, if you wanted to sail, you did it through the Nazi Youth and their sailing program or not at all. No choice in the matter. The psychotic extremes excepted, those "successful" in moving up the Nazi ladder were also successful in rising up the ladder of its idealogical replacements.
In the last century some counties in the Rocky Mountain West had two balancing (positive) community forces: the Mormons and the Masons. You as a male were one or the other. [Utah excepted, where you had your Mormons, your Jack-Mormons, and your hell-raisers.]
The point being that Masonry, like any institution worth its salt, fills a valid community need. Modern times allows other institutions or groups to step into that role.
As an insider to Masonry, my experience has been that it lost its position of influential power, and thus lost the allure for "infiltration and subversion" as well, which in isolated cases (hyped to all hell by the ignorant) seemed to derail it from its core principles. Power has moved to the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Washington Bible Study Groups, etc. Masonic lodges can barely host pot-luck picnics without help from spouses.
But because historically (until last decade or so) Masonry had codified into its public responses what citizens of the internet recognize as "do not feed the trolls," Masonry largely was able to ignore and not engage the hysterical hype of its enemies, and thus not let such tanish its overall good deeds and worthy precepts. Internet echo chambers gives staying power to the ignorant, negative, and erroneous hype.
I think something is coming. Let's call it "The Great Culling" that even the Georgia Guidestones allude to.
Words of Agent Smith from "The Matrix":
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.
I make no claims that my affiliations put me on the correct side of any bat-shit crazy, wild-ass speculated culling. But even if they did, I'd probably opt for the "culled side" if the MIC-virus, GMO-planned foot-shortages, or FEMA work camps ("Arbeit macht frei") gave me a choice.
P.S. I get a chance to see the DIA painting about once a year, because it has some restrooms close by and is near the walking bridge to the A concourse.
P.P.S. The views above are my individual opinions and do not speak for any institution or fraternity.
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x165 Señor El Once : my only current and active sock-puppet is "Señor El Once"
My only current and active sock-puppet is "Señor El Once", and it has been that way since [Mr. Rogue & I] first locked horns. Period.
When I'm retired like Mr. Rogue with lots of time on my hands, that's when the world will have to worry about me using my talent, my creativity, and Ntrepid's persona management software.
Although Mr. HR2_Lite appears to be targeting Mr. Rogue, there is some overlay to suggest a targeting of me, too. After all, I'm the one professing to be religiously fanatical about Truth and have some heavy holy-roller leanings early in my published legacy. Most of the topics Mr. Lite brought up have indeed captured my fascination in the past as only it could a "duped useful idiot" such as myself... Almost as if it were a mind-meld, and I had to stop myself from twittering on T&S an "agreed" after most of his comments.
Its all part of hegelian dialectics. If the reaction produces a known, desired response than it becomes all the more likely that the original problem was created in order to extract such a result in the first place. Repeated use of such tactics simply adds further credibility to this conclusion. Most of the major msm outlets are simply predictable, one-trick ponies in this regard and have only become increasingly obvious about such tactics in this vein. Also, the visual evidence of the militarization of law enforcement, as well as the silence of those likely involved are huge red flags.
In this clever manner, a paranoid me could speculate a purposeful intention to mimick me while he pokes at Mr. Rogue in his naming homage and some discussion themes.
I already know "about [Mr. Rogue's] current views on 9/11, Judy Wood, and Fetzer," so I don't need to ask; I don't need to go there and crank that carousel.
Disinfo purpose? One possibility: To get Mr. Rogue to crank up an alias-ASSociation game about Lite and me, that will be annoying and tiring to the readership. Ultimately, though, enough PR will be spread such that poor behavior on Mr. Lite's part gets him and me banned.
Mr. Rogue wrote:
Something tells me that this question from HR2 was meant for the Señor entity all along.
I disagree.
It's one of those "Clinton triangulation" tactics. Moreover, Mr. Lite has indirectly expressed his mucky opinions of me. I fall into the category of "mucking up the forum with veritable novelesque length posts."
If I might dabble in the alias-ASSociation game, Mr. HR2_Lite has a pattern to his commenting activity and inactivity that also resembles activity periods of other T&S participants.
Out of 140 total comments, Mr. Rogue commands 49% of them followed by Mr. HR2_Lite at 16.4%. Reminds me of a sock-puppet on another thread.
P.S. Mr. Rogue, would you please create new blog postings dedicated to Mr. Lite as well as Mr. Tamborine Man and any others you engage here, because I don't want your idle speculation into them and their antics polluting your precious work dedicated to me. Treating us all as separate entities is the only fair thing to do, until you know for damn sure, like through an admission of such or other crafty measures.
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x166 Señor El Once : {edited} Ludite Mr. Rogue
{Edited version. Original version from August 26, 2014 at 5:23 pm had more than two links and languished in the moderating queue. This edited version removes those as well as other text that I deem unworthy.}
Ludite Mr. Rogue wrote:
I don't receive email notifications for any of these blogs; ...
How does Mr. Rogue keep abreast of discussions on the blog of which he is an active participant?!!!
One could guess that he directs his browser manually (from bookmarks or T&S website navigation) to load articles and their discussions of interest. If the articles are already displayed in his browser, at some frequency he must refresh his instance in order to see potential new comments. Of course, when he makes a comment, he gets a browser refresh for free.
The point is: each fresh loading of an article, each browser refresh on an article, and each comment made to an article contribute to the statistics on those articles, such as their hit count per hour (over some period).
Mr. Rogue also wrote:
Now the COTO information is skewed... My posting frequency simply could not have accounted for the high number of hits pr hr-every 48 hr period.
Mr. Rogue confuses "posting frequency" with "browser refresh frequency." [Purposely?] Both will add counts to the hits/hour metric.
Given the historical record of how active a participant Mr. Rogue has been across many different forums, is readily observable by his posting count, and could be called "obsessive," -- logically in the light of Mr. Rogue not utilizing email notification --, Mr. Rogue would have had to exhibit a browser refresh frequency several times greater than his posting frequency just to keep up with "suspected" new comments to any discussion.
[Imagine how often OCD Mr. Rogue was disappointed, having wasted the time and internet bandwidth to re-load a page with all of its comments and video baggage only to learn by searching and scrolling that nothing had changed! Oh, the horror! This alone would contribute to a surly attitude in the responses of someone so addicted to the forum. Mr. Rogue should go to Facebook, because it'll appease his addition with automatic refreshes while allowing the quick onset of memory-hole burial to facilitate revision-history efforts.]
I stand by my earlier statements (2014-08-21).
For the sake of discussion, let's assume some validity and meaningfulness from [Mr. Rogue's] statement: "70 to 80 hits pr hr down to around an average of 25 to 28." Based on Mr. Rogue's posting frequency, the difference of 45 to 52 hits/hour could very well be attributed to (a) Mr. Rogue's posting activities and (b) Mr. Rogue's and other's "refresh" activities as they appease their internet addiction every 5 minutes to see who has commented what and where, and to respond really fast.
In other words, Mr. Rogue is directly responsible for inflating or deflating COTO's hits/hour, according to the level of his participation.
Thus, Mr. Rogue's lie and cheat is to suggest that ~my~ participation on COTO dramatically reduced its hourly hit count, when in fact it was Mr. Rogue's withholding voluntarily his high-frequency participation that drove it low.
Mr. Rogue wrote:
The case is clear, the popularity of C1 plummeted in the period after the big blow up there arranged by the psychological operation conducted by the covert entity.
No, the case is cloudy or even dark! COTO's numbers sank because ludite Mr. Rogue voluntarily deprived COTO of his comments as well as his OCD-driven brower-refresh activities.
The case is equally clear that having achieved success in this op the entity abandoned the site, having no more interest in it then he ever had... which was zero, other than an agenda to destroy that site.
The agenda was to hunt down a rabid, lying mustelid right into the burrow's of its home and utter truth. My life expectancy on COTO was always tenacious, touch-and-go, comment-to-comment, expecting to be off'ed by a COTO crew-cut companion of Mr. Rogue's at any browser refresh.
Mr. Rogue's COTO companion and buddy-admin (a) dared me into becoming a contributor [November 13, 2012 at 2:19 am] and (b) allowed my contribution to be published eventually, exceeding any initial expectations I might have had for COTO by miles.
Bonus points today are rewarded for Mr. Rogue coming |<--This Close-->| by his own actions to getting himself banned while at the same time getting his prized "Prologue" article and its comments flushed due to its flagrant violations of COTO rules of engagement. [Good thing I saw it coming and gave Mr. Rogue timely warning to CYA.]
When it imploded, it looked like a slow-motion agency action to clean Mr. Rogue's record of his bad behavior. Mr. Rogue attempted the psychological operation of luring me to COTO, imploding purposely his reputation there, and maybe hoping that in purposely fouling out and giving me victory, I would make COTO my new home-court so he could camp unmolested on T&S.
Mr. Rogue continued with his disturbing revelations:
But more disturbing is the revelation as to the stalking activities of the entity shown in great detail and organization of data. In other words it is the revealing of the operational MO of 'Spy-craft' – exactly the profile that I have been claiming is the entity's job description.
In Mr. Rogue's technical ignorance of the checkbox for "notify [about] follow-up comments via email", he conflates "stalking" [without as much as a "cyber-" qualifier -- CHEAT! CHEAT! CHEAT!] with "the results of subscribing", something even lukewarm fans or the idle-curious might do at the very same moment they post literally anything, as little as the HTML code for a space.
Undoubtedly, ludite Mr. Rogue is not aware that a comment with this checkbox marked does not have to be approved or published for the subscription to get established, thereby allowing the discussion to be monitored via email without any more incriminating and inflating "refresh" hits to the blog. [*Cue the music to "The Twilight Zone".*]
As for "detail and organization of data," Mr. Rogue tries to frame this as a negative trait and only valued by one in the "spy-craft". Here's some fine detail that Mr. Rogue's shoddy analysis misses, took him through the ringer more than few times, and would be smoking his ass today yet some more, had I not been badgering him about his blog and self-preservation.
- No one can or should rely on the forums & databases owned by others to maintain their words, be they worthy or not of preservation. Doesn't take much admin effort to remove individual comments, or all comments from an individual.
- Forums & database owned by others should not be relied upon to preserve anything. A database "enhancement" or other behind-the-scenes technical updates could necessitate it going off-line, and there goes all the greatness that it once contained. [Internet way-back machines are not good at snap-shots of old content that was served up and maintained by databases.]
- An agent certainly benefits from collecting (whether or not published) the incriminating words of their targets, but their agenda doesn't benefit from having the agent's own words so collected, organized, and published, because over time this can highlight inconsistencies that ultimately "hang them up by their own petards."
Too much legacy can be a bitch for an agent.
Mr. Rogue writes:
It is my well considered opinion that the covert entity is indeed an agent provocateur.
... Yet all that I profess to be is the "duped useful idiot" with a very narrow scope. Unlike Mr. Rogue, I do not provocatate against all on all subjects.
Mr. Rogue brags:
I have studied intelligence operation for many years, I understand the craft, and I attempt to inform others of how such things work.
To be sure of his self-professed education:
">35 years of studying the arts of espionage and his doctorates equivalent in studies several times over in the field of intelligence analysis, and forensic history, the techniques of propaganda and perception manipulation, mass psychology, and epistemology." (2009-03-23)
Mr. Rogue concludes:
The covert entity has a MO and profile that is a perfect match.
Shouldn't Mr. Rogue be yelling Bingo or something?
Damn if my internet activities don't frag my sorry "agent" ass!!! How could I so obsessively collect, organize, publish my own words with URLs and context? With a legacy website almost a decade old and maintained! WTF?
My humble search for Truth and feeding of the sheep.
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x167 Señor El Once : witty, inciteful, and convincing
Such a witty, inciteful, and convincing response, backed up with reams of substantiation in Mr. Rogue's words:
... the rest of the spillage is just as typical covert entity anal hurlant.
Silence -- or STFU -- would have been more powerful.
I talked about being targeted as well by Mr. Lite. Mr. Rogue responds:
I look on in amused wonder as Maxweird gleefully stomps the trigger of every landmine I lay for him on T&S.
Oooo! Landmines! Wow. Maybe Mr. Rogue should point them out.
Odds are good that landmines laid by Mr. Rogue are in the very words of Mr. Lite. How did Mr. Rogue manage that?
Because it won't be determined that any other non-SEO alias ever active on T&S was me, Mr. Rogue should get a head start on treating all commenters as individuals, both here and on his blog. None will be happy to find themselves associated with me or the laundry-list of words that Mr. Rogue uses to describe me. So I repeat the humble request of Mr. Rogue:
[P]lease create new blog postings dedicated to Mr. Lite as well as Mr. Tamborine Man, Mr. James Hufferd, Mr. Peter Sims, Mr. Ruff, and any others you engage here.
Mr. Rogue writes:
[A]nyone who is hep to the program knows that agents of agitprop are made up in teams, and have technical backup.
Teams?!! Of course. *Smacking palm to forehead*
In Mr. Rogue's case, a distinction needs to be made between ideological teammates and pincer teammates, the latter provides token opposition for Mr. Rogue to bully into submission. [Leave the door open for some being sock-puppets, possibly even talented and overly active Mr. Rogue.]
Like a magician waving a meaningless wand to distract, Mr. Rogue innocently writes:
I would advise that if HR2 wants to play an open and sincere role on T&S, that he discard the "HR2" costume and start anew with something more apropos.
Mr. Rogue found nothing objectionable in Mr. Lite's name when he gave his amused approval. Why now?
Served its purpose? Or now serves to trip up? Like a landmine.
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x168 hybyidrogue1 & HR2_Lite : a few mason meetings myelf, and one ceremony
2014-08-29
HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 2:47 am
Thank you Senor for your insightful response. Ive been to a few mason meetings myelf, and one ceremony. Seemed like a big show they put on as window dressing, and im not sure i have the patience to wait until 33rd degree in the hopes i MAY learn some uber-secret occulted mysticism stuff that frater x and james wright talk about on vinny eastwoods show. Seem like nice folks, like the mormons, but a little too much like them for my taste. I prefer truth, warts and all, up front. Also seemed very sycophantic at times toward the higher degrees, when i know damn well some of those elders covered in gold and fancy regalia are terrified those in the blue lodge will find out they really dont know anything special after all (frater x alludes to this). Either way, i have no problem with them, or mormons for that matter. I have friends who are new age believers, shamen, astro-travelers, and they give me a different perspective, but at least they dont have to pretend or put on a show, which is the feeling i get from the outside looking in with the former (although i respect and understand the reasons why this is). Either way, its interesting to see a mason pipe up here, although i would never expect one to actually come out and reveal any sort of involvement in conspiracy, if one truly did exist. Although the rumor is circulating that the scottish rite is strong-arming the fraternity pretty much world wide, if you put any stock in what james wright is saying.
HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 2:55 am
I interned with the CIA the same time as anderson cooper. Affiliation, none. Actually it was a joke when i first posted here i used your moniker and that was the first site that came to mind when i was gushing over judy wood's work posing as you. Unfortunately craig also did not think that was clever, and so here we are. I also used a fake email so it probably wouldnt do any good trying to email me. Sorry to disappoint.
hybridrogue1
August 28, 2014 at 6:39 am
HR2_Lite,
I suppose the major disappointment is to be served redundancies as though they are fresh meat on the platter.
Any apprentice researcher has been through this; these introductory "101" topics from the standard deck of cards.
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HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 11:43 am
Welp, you are a hard man to please walter white, i mean walt whitman, i mean walter whitty. You sure are that; witty. Im sure even the painstaking, eon long studies you have put yourself through will ultimately still be considered "redundant" to some. Just remember pride always comes before the fall, big daddy. With that in mind, any comments on what the bunkers i mentioned previously might be for, or do you already have one so you dont care? Hopefully craig sees this comment is half in jest, and will be lenient with my self-deluded "cleverness", just this once. {$miley face}
HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 4:10 pm
I know better than to poke a secret society member with a stick. No senor, i was referring to our good friend mr. Rogue, only in a lite-hearted manner though, as i have noted his affinity for the breaking bad tv show on other threads. I mean no disrespect, apologies if my humor is misinterpreted as such.
HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 4:49 pm
I had a whole post typed up saying how i actually, to the contrary of what senor is inferring, greatly respect and admire him and rogue, and that neither am i here as a disruptor, disinfo, or doppleganger hack, but alas as i am typing on an itty bitty phone at this point, after it got lost in the interwebs, i had to resort to this paraphrased version. I like you both, as i gleaned from the hefty judy woods debate, senor has great integrity and intellectual honesty to follow the evidence, regardless of where it leads, and rogue has great depth of knowledge and a rapier wit to boot, which i get quite a chuckle from on a daily basis. Anywho, i still look forward to HR1's insight into the aforementioned bunker debacle, if he cares to share.
HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 4:54 pm
Btw senor, my brash post regarding novelesque posts was directed toward ruff, not yourself, and was simply my throwing a hissy fit due to my posts being deleted, and the fact that i had to scroll through ruff's anecdote on my tiny phone by swiping down until my finger bleeds, hehe.
hybridrogue1
August 28, 2014 at 6:38 pm
It should be kept in mind by the Señor entity that as he has made the PR for the thread he copies and pastes from, that those words he drops here can be read in context there.
It should also be kept in mind by the covert entity that I have nothing to answer to in his commentary.
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HR2_Lite
August 28, 2014 at 7:44 pm
Right. Well this is just getting odd now. Guess ill just leave this one for craig to deal with until we can return to business as usual. Of course this very well could be business as usual, as it seems egos are fragile around here and apparently even when you attempt to compliment someone or ask a genuine question, it is inevitably seen as an antagonistic jab toward the one you are seeking answers from or heaping praises on. But perhaps it is simply a matter of my words not being posted, as it seems craig is away on vacation, so i will refrain from further comment until he can get us back on track.
hybridrogue1
August 29, 2014 at 2:27 am
More hopeless twaddle from this covert entity Señor. Let my original words be read in context here:
http://hybridrogue1.wordpress.com/2014/07/08/maxwell-bridges-agitprop-disinformant/#comment-2817
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hybridrogue1
August 29, 2014 at 10:15 am
So, fake CIA connections. Fake CNN connections. Fake email. Fake you.
And a tiny little fake phone that bloodies your finger…
And you are "sorry to disappoint" … hahahahahaha…
Sure, now I get it HR2, Everything's cool because everything is fake.
Anyone who can "respect" both the covert entity Señor and myself has a schizoid idea of respect.
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hybridrogue1
August 29, 2014 at 10:57 am
So now several new comments have landed on T&S from HR2. And we are supposed to take them at face value?
Who's face?
Oh wait … NOW he is serious … {grin}
How could this character suppose that everything would not be turned into a matter of "personalities", when he stumbled on stage rouged as rogue, tap dancing and farting like the Señor cunt, kissing asses while sticking pins in them?
And now "Big Daddy" is a "hard man to please"…
What dumbfuckery is this?
No, really?
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x169 Señor El Once : sycophantic at times
Dear Mr. HR2_Lite,
Bummer that an untimely release of your comments from the moderation queue would make some of my comments very embarrassing in their ignorance, tone, and "sock-puppet" undertones towards you. I apologize.
Technically, every alias posting here is a sock-puppet of someone. The intrigue is whether or not someone is pulling the strings on multiple puppets in the same show. Obviously, you and I agree that we aren't the same person, a fact that Mr. Rogue finds hard to swallow. In my books, Mr. Rogue and you aren't the same, either.
Sorry for my inferences of such in my comments.
But, Mr. Lite, that doesn't mean we can't lead Mr. Rogue into believing that we're conspiring together.
Regarding Masonry, you wrote:
Also seemed very sycophantic at times toward the higher degrees, when i know damn well some of those elders covered in gold and fancy regalia are terrified those in the blue lodge will find out they really dont know anything special after all (frater x alludes to this).
El-oh-el! I understand how you got your impressions, but I disagree. Other than the honorary 33rd degree of the Scottish Rite, the "sycophantic" show is ~not~ to the "higher degrees", because after the effort (3 months to 1+ years, YMMV) to go through the three Blue Lodge degrees, receiving the additional 29 degrees of the Scottish Rite or the additional 9 or so degrees of the York Rite can be (and is) done over two or three days on their respective "Reunion Weekends" once or twice a year... But only if the Master Mason in good standing petitions for these degrees. In fact, with the Master Mason degree from the Blue Lodge alone, you are on the level with all others. Those additional degrees aren't something that gets lorded over the others who haven't pursued membership in those affiliate Masonic bodies.
The "sycophantic" show at those open meetings or public ceremonies is toward the office that the Mason holds, or held, in the Blue Lodge or the region's Grand Lodge as a sign of respect. "Those elders covered in gold and fancy regalia" are held in esteem for their good character and their services to the fraternity, not because any other Mason thinks those elders might know something special (e.g., conspiracy secrets) and holds them in awe.
Although the rumor is circulating that the scottish rite is strong-arming the fraternity pretty much world wide, if you put any stock in what james wright is saying.
I don't know who James Wright is. World-wide strong-arming of the fraternity by the Scottish Rite? Can't happen. In certain countries, or in certain regions of certain countries, maybe this has some stilted remnants of truth. Not in my neck of the woods, though, and by experience and logical extension, not true for most lodges nation-wide (USA).
Btw senor, my brash post regarding novelesque posts was directed toward ruff...
Ah, yes, but I can elbow my way into the discussion and freely admit that "novelesque posts", or at least "novel length" applies to me, too. That's why I found it good to adopt a closing // signature (a "leaning-eleven"), so that bleeding fingers will know when to stop scrolling.
Because new email accounts can be set up with gmail so easily, because email accounts can be associated with one another, because email accounts can forward messages to other email accounts, and because email filters can be very helpful for forums like this, I don't see the point in registering with a fake email when a real email address gives you the benefits of notifications. Mr. Ruff's anecdote and any of my guilty tomes are much easier to skip (no bloody swiping required) from your email client.
Here's a bone that I know Mr. Rogue will chew on: I have ~many~ email accounts for historic or web admin reasons. But most of them are forwarded down to two gmail accounts that I can monitor with my Samsung phone. I prefer using gmail at a computer with a full keyboard, but recently got Swype for the phone that could technically compose decent looking messages almost fast... errr, faster than finding a computer in my man cave away from family activities. Haven't crossed that barrier of using telephone to participate in forum discussions yet, except with a single accidental reply to a notification message (instead of the intended forward) that saw it get posted and live.
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x170 Señor El Once : Reminds me of a joke.
{mcb: Published but then removed and text replaced with "COMMENT REMOVED".}
Mr. Rogue writes on August 28, 2014 at 6:38 pm:
It should also be kept in mind by the covert entity that I have nothing to answer to in his commentary.
But not only did the 6:38 pm comment above contradict his hypnotic assertion "nothing to answer to", but also his eloquent comment from August 29, 2014 at 2:27:
More hopeless twaddle from this covert entity Señor.
He writes at August 29, 2014 at 10:15 am:
Anyone who can "respect" both the covert entity Señor and myself has a schizoid idea of respect.
At least Mr. Rogue is consistent with the "respect" that he dishes out (August 29, 2014 at 10:57 am):
How could this character (HR2_Lite) suppose that everything would not be turned into a matter of "personalities", when he stumbled on stage rouged as rogue, tap dancing and farting like the Señor cunt, kissing asses while sticking pins in them?
What sort of respect should ~50% of the population of the entire world have towards Mr. Rogue who would use such misogynistic expressions that assume a part of the female anatomy is inferior to its male equivalent?
Reminds me of a joke. A woman talking to a man: "I'm not in the least jealous or envious of that [*points to his crotch*]! With this [*points to her own crotch*], I can get as many of those [*points back to his crotch*] as I like, along with drinks, dinner, and a show every night of the week and more."
Mr. Rogue asks:
And we are supposed to take them [several new comments from Mr. Lite] at face value?
Yes. Innocent until proven guilty.
Mr. Rogue complains on his blog [with emphasis added]:
My thoughts and commentary are put to this blog in a rather profuse manner. As it is an open journal/diary in the main. ... Others who copy and paste my commentary from HR1blog to T&S without my permission or prior knowledge do so at their own responsibility, and any such reposting of my words there that is out of the overall context of the way I meant them here is the liability of the plagiarist who does the copying and pasting. And it is Maxitwat Bridges that is the culprit, guilty of this misframing quotes from this blog to T&S almost exclusively.
Plagiarism has two conditions that must be met to be true: (1) not crediting the original author ~and~ (2) without authorization.
Right from the onset, Mr. Rogue's charge ~fails~ at #1, because his words are accurately quoted, attributed to him, and often have links to his blog. In no way have Mr. Rogue's words ever been represented as my own work.
Mr. Rogue's charge ~fails~ at #2, because plariarism has a major exclusion called "fair-use", "a doctrine that permits limited use of copyrighted material without acquiring permission from the rights holders. Examples of fair use include commentary, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, teaching, search engines, library archiving, and scholarship."
Commentary, criticism, and parody are what I have been doing with Mr. Rogue's work.
Mr. Rogue had problems in the recent past with knowing what "defamation" was: making false statements about someone that injures their good reputation. So it is rather ironic that his false statements about me being a plagiarist of Mr. Rogue's words is -- drumroll please -- defamation.
But these are not the only issues with the quoted passage above from Mr. Rogue. "Liability" and "responsibility" for accurately quoted and attributed words does ~not~ transfer from the original author to those commenting on it or criticizing it. It is a pretty glaring cheat to make such an assertion! [Those making fair-use of someone's work bear responsibility and liability for their commentary or criticism and the applicability of such to where it is published.]
Further, to the false charge of "misframing quotes from [Mr. Rogue's] blog"? (a) Mr. Rogue isn't misquoted. (b) Sufficient content is quoted to give context, and (c) this is further enhanced by linking to the exact context in its naked entirety. Thus "misframing" isn't the issue that Mr. Rogue has, but having his worked "properly framed" is.
Finally, Mr. Rogue calls his blog an "open journal/diary." "Open: not closed or barred at the time; having no means of closing or barring; having the interior immediately accessible."
Here's a fair-use parady of Mr. Rogue: "What dumbfuckery is this?"
If the mis-use of Mr. Rogue's words were a concern to him, ludite Mr. Rogue could easily change settings on his blog to make various postings a "closed journal/diary." He could password protect his blog or restrict access to his select chosen few friends and sock-puppets.
Too bad that a private or closed journal would defeat his defamation purposes of writing something cutting that his target would read. Those defamation purposes are only underscored by the blog's title ["MAXWELL BRIDGES: DISINFORMANT"] and Mr. Rogue's statements:
So I will remind this silly little cunt one more time; this blog is not a tributary of T&S. Further Bridges has not been invited here simply by the title of the current thread. Bridges will also never be granted posting privileges here...
In one lengthy passage, we see many elements of Mr. Rogue's character including his fairness, objectivity, respect...
Here's a WordPress hint for ludite Mr. Rogue:
(1) Go to your WordPress Dashboard.
(2) Look at "All Posts" and pick an entry like "MAXWELL BRIDGES: DISINFORMANT". Edit it.
(3) On the right-hand side is an area called "Publish". Within this area is an option called "Visibility: Public."
(4) Edit the "Visibility" to be "Password protected" [or "Private".]
(5) Press "Okay" to the change, and then press "Update" to publish it to your blog.
Then I will no longer see what sort of back-stabbing defamation Mr. Rogue really thinks about me, and I won't be able to use it against him (unless someone gives me the password).
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x171 T&S Regulars : a few options to consider
2014-08-29
Craig McKee
August 29, 2014 at 2:27 pm
I have a few options to consider where the comments section of this blog is concerned. I could simply not allow comments at all (this was suggested to me by a prominent figure in the Truth Movement a couple of years back). This is, in many ways, a delightful prospect.
I could return to moderating all comments before allowing them to be posted. This would mean waits of anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours (particularly during the work day) before comments would appear. This does not particularly appeal to me but it would keep certain types of comments from appearing before I see them.
Or maybe I should just publish a list of inflexible rules. And breaking any of these rules would result in being returned to moderation or being banned altogether.
I'm tired of the incessant inward-looking analysis of the discussion process itself. I don't want to read about an exchange that took place on COTO or anywhere else. I don't care what you all think of each other. And I don't care about which of you can out-clever the other. Frankly, I'm getting sick of clever. I'll take sincerity over clever any day. And based on how many people are regularly commenting here of late, I think I'm not alone.
I want this forum to be about genuine and productive discussion. Those who want the same thing are welcome.
Señor El Once
August 29, 2014 at 6:03 pm
COMMENT REMOVED
*See my reply – Craig McKee
hybridrogue1
August 29, 2014 at 7:34 pm
–"I want this forum to be about genuine and productive discussion. Those who want the same thing are welcome."~Craig McKee – 8/29/2014 AT 2:27 PM
. . . . . . . . .
I agree with Craig entirely. I have HR1blog for my personal analysis of the discussion process and those I find disingenuous and why. I can be quite satisfied with this arrangement going forward.
Now I suggest that the Covert Entity Señor, read the entirety of Mr McKee's comment of 2:27 PM. I suggest that he read it enough times over that he begins to understand the words put there in plain English.
This is the last advice I have to offer the Covert Entity, on this thread.
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Craig McKee
August 30, 2014 at 1:33 am
The above comment by Señor El Once was removed because it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. I realize that SEO may not have seen my comment of Aug. 29 at 2:27 p.m. because it did not go at the bottom of the thread, which is where I wanted it to go. Here is just one of the ways that the comment did not meet the standard that I am trying to establish for this blog.
I wrote: "I'm tired of the incessant inward-looking analysis of the discussion process itself. I don't want to read about an exchange that took place on COTO or anywhere else."
Señor El Once takes Hybridrogue1 to task for his use of a certain word, which I had already removed from the comment. While the criticism of the use of this word was valid (and will be dealt with separately), it is not helpful to call attention to something that has already been removed by the moderator. I understand that some of you may see the email notification of a comment in your inbox, but it is important to make sure that you are not commenting on something that has been changed or removed.
Craig McKee
August 30, 2014 at 1:40 am
Hybridrogue1,
I removed a word from your comment that came right after "like the Señor." I'm sure you know which one. This word is absolutely forbidden. For one, it breaks a rule that I have been very clear about: Changing someone's name to mock or insult them is not allowed. Calling someone a nasty name of any kind is also not allowed. You managed to do both. Please refrain from doing this.
x172 owenmeister : saddened to read that you are a Mason
2014-08-29
owenmeister
August 30, 2014 at 4:18 am
I am saddened to read that you are a Mason. To be fair, I am not a Mason and am on the outside looking in. However, the poor reputation of the Masons is well-deserved. The only confederate general to have a statue in Washington was the command of the Southern Scottish Rite. Aleister Crowley was a Mason. What a fine, upstanding moral specimen he turned out to be.
On a personal level, I worked with a man who was a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Mason. After a combination of research and pestering the co-worker, he finally admitted the higher level Masons are revealed who is the light bringer and it isn't Jesus. It's Lucifer.
For anyone who is interested in learning how Masonry can lead to spiritual waywardness, go to Ephesians 5:11.org.
I kind of feel let down here, kind of like when William Wallace was betrayed by Robert The Bruce In Braveheart.
Seo, you are a smart man and you seem genuine, but this feels like a deal breaker.
x173 hybridrogue1 : owenmeister says something I can agree with
2014-08-30
August 30, 2014 at 8:18 pm
owenmeister finally says something I can agree with;
“I am saddened to read that you are a Mason.”
. . . . . . . . . . . .
Yes, just so. Secret societies are secret societies. They are covert activities. Covert activities are by their very nature conspiracies. The foot soldiers in any organization are not privy of the knowledge of the true agenda of the elite leadership. Only fools and eunuchs pledge liege to that which they do not grasp.
…Knights of the Temple and all that medieval bullshit time travelling into the now…
It's fucking idiocy to trust that lunacy.
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x174 hybridrogue1 : Señor El Cunt
2014-08-30
hybridrogue1
2014-08-30
Sans Concrete
"I sat down at my desk. I opened the drawer and pulled a sheet of paper and set it before me. I picked up my pen and began to write…."
. . . . . .
What in the above sentence is metaphor?
All of it:
Sitting down implies a "chair" a subtextual metaphor, the most vague of them in the sentence. The readers mind imagines the sitting position without mention of the chair that must be there to sit in. That "chair" is "any chair", as all the items mentioned in the sentence. It is the ‘allegorical chair', the allegorical desk, the allegorical drawer, sheet of paper and pen. The imagination of the reader fills in the details with the most intimate examples of these items in the reader's own life. It is imagined that such items are "like" those known to the reader.
"Like is not." The words of the Taoist sage.
This could be the beginning of a very long treatise on human language as metaphor, and human life as allegory and ‘self-story' in an eternal moment of now, based on memories true and imagined, and projection into a hoped for or feared future.
All things occur in the present moment, even memories of the past occur in the now.
It is in grasping that the present moment is the only moment you have ever known, that can set you free from belief in Maya. And the beginning of true understanding.
~Magus Maverik
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hybridrogue1
2014-08-30
Who is Magus Maverik? An allegory for myself; the higher wisest self, sitting on the edge of eternity peering through the eyes of the meat-being.
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hybridrogue1
2014-08-31
"I called Mr. Rogue repeatedly a liar, a cheat, and agent"~Señor El Once – MARCH 4, 2013 – 1:13 PM
"This is what the ignorant cheat and liar, Agent Rogue, wants us to believe to."~Señor El Once – MARCH 4, 2013 – 7:30 PM
"I called Mr. Rogue repeatedly a liar, a cheat, and weasel"~Señor El Once – ad nauseum
"If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth." – Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Propaganda Minister)
Maxwell Bridges aka Señor El Once has learned the Strategy of Deception well. Perhaps as part of his Masonic learning, likely a "god-given talent", surely put to use as an disinformant agent on the Internet.
And apparently he means to engage me "until death do us part"… and this is such a drag and a bore that I can barely express properly here, there, or anywhere.
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hybridrogue1
2014-08-31
AUGUST 25, 2014 AT 11:46 AM
"Mr. Rogue and Mr. Lite,
My apologies for "rude" remark. I take it back."~Señor El Cunt
Don't you dare apologize to me Max. Not for trivial shit like this. Not after all the reams of bullshit lies you have told, all the deceptions you have attempted; all the failed attempts at character assassination.
What a squirrely little punk you are, attempting to make good appearances through saccharine decorum, you disgusting little disinfoslut.
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hybridrogue1
2014-08-31
Those of us who have been at this for many years are well enough aware of the hierarchical structure of secret societies such as the Masons.
Max's excuses are made with two possibilities in aspect. One, he is a useful idiot, duped into seeing only the outer realms of his little Mickey Mouse Club. Two, is that he is on a privy counsel and would make the exact same excuses to the outside world as that useful idiot he pretends to be. That is the whole reason for the hidden inner chambers of secret societies.
One is caught in the dichotomous trap as soon as one crosses the line and joins one of these secret groups; suspicion follows your every encounter. And it's your own damned fault.
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hybridrogue1
2014-08-31
I would never have expected an excuse for a Maxisquall on the current thread on T&S, as the topic is the current police state. And there should have been little argument about any aspects of that.
But the unexpected appearance by some strange entity posing as a second edition of yours truly, certainly set the stage in new props and dressings.
And so again strange disruptive winds blew through the blog. I have no patience for coincidence theory and remain suspicious as to the timing of this grand entrance by yet another covert entity. Too bizarre.
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x175 Señor El Once : love what you did with my comment
Dear Mr. McKee,
I absolutely love what you did above with my comment from August 29, 2014 at 6:03 pm! And for justified reasons, I might add. It hasn't been my intention to make you work as blog owner and moderator. So while I apologize for the purposeful infraction of decorum, I am grateful for your participation even if my hands are the ones being slapped.
No worries on the Masonic front, Mr. McKee. I won't be participating. At least not here. I will STFU and not engage that ping-pong conversation. Why?
One caveat to this response right up front. My motivation for online {--edited--} debates is rather low; it has been quite the time suck. Not sure what I'd do if {--edited--} were let out on T&S. I'm trying to find other areas to apply myself. ... I'm boinking and hitting a truther wall called "apathy."
The {--edited--} tag once referred to atomic things beginning with "N", but it could just as well stand for a fraternal association beginning with "M".
Mr. McKee, because ludite Mr. Rogue admits to not using email notification, he does not have a copy of my infracting comment in his email box and its helpful WordPress hint about how to change the visibility of a posting from "Public" to "Password protected" or "Private".
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