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Part 1: When Technologyies and Politics Collide
x2 Maxwell C. Bridges : CV, 5G Trump notes and contemplatations
2020-03-18
Did you know that the 60 GHz frequencies of 5G are known to affect O2 (oxygen molecule) by causing its electrons to spin? This may hamper hemoglobin from binding with O2 in the lungs... leading to shortness of breath, dry coughs, etc. Flu like symptoms.
From what I've read about (very real) Corona viruses, I'm suspecting that what we are experiencing is a hoax. [China complained that US military started the CV outbreak.] 5G could be an enabler. Tallies from normal seasonal flu might be pulled into the media fear-inducing numbers.
Lots of things are at play in this "crisis", which is more hype, control, and purposeful destruction of our economy. [I'm supposed to be skiing this week with my family in Breckenridge; I feel sorry for all of the employees who work in such resort towns for the economic hardship that will face them.]
The Kushner Kingpin and His Corona Conflicts
https://shero.substack.com/p/the-kushner-kingpin-and-his-corona
++++++ Contemplations
Your lament points to a need for a "digital commons discussion space" publicly funded like libraries, where all can come and get on their soapboxes. We used to have that in the early days of the internet that were hosted and maintained on the equipment of publicly funded universities and you had to be a little Unix techie to get to the newsgroups.
But then corporations like Facebook took over. This is a commercial discussion space whose rules are determined by a corporation. There should be no expectation of free-speech. [Nobody has free-speech in an at-will corporation.]
My speculation on the Trump Administration future tenure is that they will drive everything down really far. "You'll be tired of all the winning."
Trump's many bankruptcies made him the PTB's ideal GOP candidate for what needed to happen to the US and the world under the rules capitalism and the markets. Two other Trump talents are plenty of scandals to be leveraged and being able to produce from his mouth a firehose of lies, because at heart Trump is a marketing man who sells the sizzle and not (anymore) the steak.
How far down? Never in my life time have they been able to shut everything down. We're living a strange version of Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged", and decisions made not to produce, to sacrifice the lower-classes to falling even lower.
They had this planned, the hype, and the fear. Look how quickly they want to bail out the stock markets and corporate america. Look at Kuschner's family connection to the Corona Virus.
https://shero.substack.com/p/the-kushner-kingpin-and-his-corona
And owing to the capabilities of 5G (overlaid with active-denial weapons), the Corona Virus hype might be the hoax to mask what 60 GHz at the right magnitude might induce. [Makes the electrons of the oxygen molecule spin, thereby possibly interfering with hemoglobin's ability to collect such from the lungs and deliver through the blood.] Dry coughs; shortness of breath; fever... Explains to me how flocks of birds could simply fall from the sky en masse in areas where 5G was tested.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/03/13/four-reasons-civilization-wont-decline-it-will-collapse/
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/17/we-know-script-naomi-klein-warns-coronavirus-capitalism-new-video-detailing-battle
I'm not completely on board with all points or conclusions of this article, and maybe it falls into the category of disinformation to some extent. [Just about everything is a form of mis- / dis- information.]
Our assignment must be to rescue nuggets of truth from within the disinformation vessel.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020
+++++++++ mcb
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-google/social-media-giants-warn-of-ai-moderation-errors-as-coronavirus-empties-offices-idUSKBN2133BM
x4 Maxwell C. Bridges : when the PTB want to push a fear agenda, AI bots are so efficient
2020-03-18
"Google said that to reduce the need for people to come into offices, YouTube and other business divisions are temporarily relying more on artificial intelligence and automated tools to find problematic content. Such software is not always as accurate as humans, which leads to errors."
Sometimes software is more accurate than humans. And when the PTB want to push a fear agenda, it helps if the AI bots can instantly flag sharing content that might contradict or undermine the agenda's aim.
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x6 Braam Flotz : 5G does not give you COVID-19
5G does not give you COVID-19.
x8 Maxwell C. Bridges : 5G does produce in some people flu-like symptoms
2020-04-02
[Potential bat-shit crazy] No, 5G does not give you COVID-19. However, it does produce in some people flu-like symptoms. Shortness of breath, but dry coughs. Comes from 60 GHz affecting the spin of electrons in Oxygen molecules, possibly making it difficult for hemoglobin to bind, thus having no Oxygen to deliver around the body via blood.
When you see birds dropping from the sky, this is maybe why.
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x10 Julie Hand Burke : Thank you!
2020-04-02
Maxwell Bridges
I was just about to write this but, you saved me the trouble. Thank you!
2020-04-02
Maxwell Bridges
yes
x14 Ken Andrews : heard it on FB?
2020-04-02
Maxwell Bridges
lol proof or you heard it on FB?
x16 Maxwell C. Bridges : correct you are
2020-04-02
Dear Mr. Ken Andrews, correct you are, which is why I'm still keeping my eye open for other studies and whatnot. Maybe I should have prefaced my comment with [bat-shit crazy]. I'll go edit it to that effect.
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x18 Leon McCready : most people recovering from it
2020-04-02
Maxwell Bridges
why are most people recovering from it then
x20 Kevin Knights : When they turn on 5g, masses will be getting those symptoms
2020-04-02
Maxwell Bridges
correct... When they turn on d 5g all around the world d masses will be getting those symptoms an u will run for d vaccine in which you will now have it
x22 Mark Kahl : microwave cold
2020-04-02
Maxwell Bridges
itbshojld burn your skin
If they say it’s like a microwave
Microwave cooks the outside first and the middle is always cold
cold
x24 Maxwell C. Bridges : a perfect storm in our human evolution
2020-04-02
Dear Mr. Mark Kahl,
regarding your comment
"... burn your skin. If they say it’s like a microwave .."
Not quite. It depends on the magnitude of the 5G signal, its frequency, and where it is directed. 5G is tune-able and can be directional. Meaning, they can target line-of-sight individuals.
Dear Mr. Kevin Knights and Mr. Leon McCready, so you aren't forgotten in the discussion.
[Bat shit crazy] The vaccine for COVID-19 will be worse than suffering the actual illnes, because other elements will be injected into the human body, and unique digital identification of individuals is considered one aim. When radiated by triangulating 5G cells, the AI computers can target you easily for a drone strike (in the extreme cases.)
In the not so extreme occasions, the vaccine-antenna can be 5G targeted with energy at specific frequency, it that affecting the delivery of messages. Pain can be a message.
I suspect TPB are trying to initiate a push to the next level of human evolution through DNA tinkering manually (via vaccines) -- as opposed to human evolution through spiritual thinking. Either way, they succeed, because failure culls the herd, and success mutates us further. That mutation in an OCD and autism sense could get worse, or better; but "better" probably only for a few with the elite health insurance.
We are at a perfect storm in our human evolution.
//
x26 Mark Kahl : we have a real problem -- knowing who's vaccinated
2020-04-02
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
it’s all bill gates /// sorry I wish it was this 5g it would be easier /// still in the realm of energy it will be heat /// that’s how energy works
Image may contain: 1 person, possible text that says 'mark @plntbsdslife The ID2020 Alliance Announces New Partners in Digital Identity Initiative Bill and Linda gates / Rockefeller funded The ID2020 Alliance Announces New Partners in Digital Identity Initiative prnewswire.com'
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
Image may contain: possible text that says 'DAVOS, Switzerland, Jan. 22, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -The ID2020 Alliance, a public-privat partnership committed to improving lives through digital identity, announced today that Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT), Mercy Corps, Hyperledger and the UN International Computing Center have joined Accenture (NYSE: ACN) as partners in the Alliance. Microsoft will also donate $1M to the effort, joining Accenture and the Rockefeller Foundation as major donors to the initiative.'
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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The tags are incorporated in only some of the array of sugar-based microneedles on a patch. When the needles dissolve in about two minutes, they deliver the vaccine and leave the pattern of tags just under the skin, where they become something like a bar-code tattoo.
Instead of ink, this highly specific medical record consists of copper-based quantum dots embedded in biocompatible, micron-scale capsules. Their near-infrared dye is invisible, but the pattern they set can be read and interpreted by a customized smartphone.
The two-year project is aimed at the 1.5 million preventable deaths that result from a lack of vaccinations, primarily in developing nations.
"The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation came to us and said, 'Hey, we have a real problem -- knowing who's vaccinated,'" said Kevin McHugh, who was recruited to join Rice with funding from the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas.
etc.
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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Breitbart News Headline "Bill Gates Calls for Complete National Shutdown"
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
Image may contain: 1 person, possible text that says 'mark @plntbsdslife CIA Arrested China Scientist For Creating Corona Virus youtu.be/ moegnB4rBEg via @YouTube YouTube #StayHome O CIA Arrested China Scientist For Creating Corona Virus CIA Arrested China Scientist For Creating Corona Virus. It is coming and going'
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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(Jan 28, 2020) Federal Agents arrested Dr. Charles Lieber, chair of Harvard University's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, with lying to the Department of Defense about secret monthly paymens of $50k paid by China and receipt of millions more to help set up a chemical / biological "Research" laboratory in China.
Also arrested were two Chinese "Students" working as research assistants, one of whom was actually a lieutenant in the Chinese Army, the other captured at Logan Airport as he tried to catch a flight to China - smuggling 21 vials of "Sensitive Biological Samples" according to the FBI.
The research lab was at the Wuhan University of Technology. Wuhan China is ground zero to the "Coronavirus".
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus.
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
Image may contain: possible text that says '4 Patent Abstract An outbreak of a virulent respiratory virus, now as Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), identified in Hong Kong, China growing number of countries around the world in 2003. The invention relates nucleic acids and proteins from the SARS coronavirus. These nucleic acids and proteins can used in the preparation and manufacture of formulations, diagnostic reagents, kits, etc. invention also provides methods for treating SARS by administering small molecule antiviral compounds, as well as methods of identifying potent small molecules the treatment of SARS. USPTO'
Mark Kahl
Maxwell Bridges
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Coronavirus EP#172319A1 European Patent Office.
Inventor: Erica Bickerton, Sarah KEEP, Paul Britton
Current Assignee: Pirbright Institute
Application EP15750093.5A events
2014-07-23
Mark Kahl
http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
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CENTERFORHEALTHSECURITY.ORG
Mark Kahl
https://youtu.be/6Af6b_wyiwI
The next outbreak? We’re not ready | Bill Gates
YOUTUBE.COM
Mark Kahl
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10961823/coronavirus-hunt-patient-zero-spreading-covid-19-singapore/
x28 Maxwell C. Bridges : 5G is another piece to the cage that we're building for ourselves
2020-04-02
Dear Mr. Mark Kahl,
Nice set of relevant links that makes both our cases.
I'm not saying the Coronavirus isn't a real thing and isn't affecting people. However, it is being hyped in order to create fear and have people willingly vaccinate themselves.
If a cellphone can read the identifier placed in the vaccine, then so can a 5G tower. Gone is our privacy.
You wrote: "still in the realm of energy it will be heat /// that’s how energy works"
This is a misunderstanding. Energy often takes the form of heat (active denial systems), but doesn't have to. The paradigm shift is "frequency / harmonics / resonance / dissonance."
Send the right frequencies to get the metals from Chemtrails & vaccines floating in the blood to resonate. Make you happy? Make you sad? Make you anxious? Make your ears ring?
You wrote: "it’s all bill gates ///"
No, it is not all and completely Bill Gates. He's just an instrumental player.
You wrote: "sorry I wish it was this 5g it would be easier"
5G is another piece to the cage that we're building for ourselves, or is being foisted upon us.
//
Here's how 5G dovetails with CV.
Corona Virus - Biggest Deception On The Whole World EndGame Plan - 5G Agenda (5G Vodafone Whistleblower)
https://www.brighteon.com/f9d420cb-acf5-4c81-b98c-b307f3ca0706?fbclid=IwAR0ZgxE4wLEj5EoBXwF7ryEhBg7xGrdlaLYpG7A8qf6sFMvl3zw8c1zgWHk
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COVID-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR3IrA-8ButyUO6_OxYzNISTDxozkMC6-ulUHcaA_-6Y8vI7pcAGOghYeK0
Incidental Misinformation
Much of what you think you know about COVID-19 is wrong
March 31st, 2020
https://www.truthinnumbers.net/incidental-misinformation
Part 2: Trump and forced mRNA injections
x30 Maxwell C. Bridges : promise that won't be kept
2020-05-14
It'll be another (election) promise that won't be kept. //
x32 Beverly Lait : that one is just fine
2020-05-14
And that one is just fine.
x34 Maxwell C. Bridges : it will be best vaccine. Ever.
2020-05-14
By all means, if Trump is going to start vaccinating people after the election whether or not he wins with the help of the army, I think the first round of vaccines should be administered to everyone who supported Trump. Tell them this is payback for their loyal support; they get to go first! What could go wrong?!! The way that Trump constantly wins, it will be best vaccine. Ever. So good for some, they will never need another one. Clean them right up better than injecting yourself with disinfectant and shining sunshine up your ass.
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x36 Shawn Fogarty : gonna force vaccines?
2020-05-14
Sounds like it but I don’t believe he is gonna force vaccines. I’m hoping it’s just strategy
x38 Braulio Gomez : definitely going to be forced
2020-05-14
Shawn Fogarty
it’s definitely going to be forced
2020-TBD
Explain why you feel that way
x42 Maxwell C. Bridges : how the vaccinations are going to be forced
2020-05-14
Dear Mr. Shawn Fogarty, allow me help out Mr. Braulio Gomez regarding how the vaccinations are going to be forced. For starters, Trump wants the army "to help." Has to be done by the end of the year.
By all means, if Trump is going to start vaccinating people after the election whether or not he wins with the help of the army, I think the first round of vaccines should be administered to everyone who supported Trump. Tell them this is payback for their loyal support; they get to go first! What could go wrong?!! The way that Trump constantly wins, it will be best vaccine. Ever. So good for some, they will never need another one. Clean them right up better than injecting yourself with disinfectant and shining sunshine up your ass.
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x44 Maxwell C. Bridges : sexiest feature of them all = "willingness"
2020-05-14
The old saying was "any port looks good in a storm."
Updated to this century might be:
"any consenting-adult port is better than all the beautiful, glamorous, hormone-inspiring, but unaccommodating ports who grace the pages of travel brochures."
Whereas fetishes to certain anatomical features might superficially rank one sex partner better than another, the truly sexiest feature overriding them all is "willingness."
//
Part 3: Vote Out and Vote Out-of-the-Box
x46 Maxwell C. Bridges : a vote for third-parties, is a vote AGAINST Trump and Biden!
2020-08-29
Ironically the voting advice and wisdom given by Trump and Biden supporters to each other should be followed by both.
Trump supporter: "Biden is in cognitive decline and was 40 years playing a role building the flawed systems that suddenly he now knows how to fix. Biden / Harris are under Israeli control; Tulsi schooled Harris well on Harris's hypocritical record; what's with the hair sniffing? Don't vote for Biden!"
Biden supporters: "Trump is a racist, misogynist, liar with very deep Epstein connections and thus under Israeli control, who only excels at enriching himself, corruption, and breaking things. Trump is fascism brought to life! Don't vote for Trump!"
Indeed! Let's take this rational and well-meaning advice from our fellow citizens by not voting for either Trump or Biden, because both will follow the same downward spiral of our democracy into tyranny, with only sugar in the PowerPoint Presentation being the difference.
Let's make 2020 the year of the third-parties!
If the predictions are true about the rigging of the voter suppression and the political games to destroy the USPS, that may take the election into a contested situation between Biden and Trump that other forces end up deciding... THEN it is time for you to make your otherwise MEANINGLESS vote into something MEANINGFUL by voting third-parties in order to get them over thresholds needed to be taken seriously from the onset in subsequent elections.
Remember, a vote for third-parties, is a vote AGAINST Trump and Biden!
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x48 Maxwell C. Bridges : Roman Nazi Pigs Trigger
2020-08-29
Triggers me against those "Roman Nazi Pigs". Roman? They might say they are Christian, but the closest their karmic lives have ever gotten to Jesus was in nailing his hands to the cross. Nazi? Oh, just doing their jobs, following orders, and executing standard procedures that we learned from the militarization of the police and intensive training by Israeli Mossad in how to handle -- *cough* -- "undesireables." Pigs? Damn if that 70's black jiving complaints really sum it up well!
"Roman Nazi Pigs", in this life and past lives. We need to stop that Karmic cycle.
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x50 Maxwell C. Bridges : thank you for signally your Trumpturd fawning
2020-08-29
Dear Mr. Bryan Eugene Blackburn,
thank you for limiting your Qanon spamming to just this thread. Also thank you for signally not only your Trumpturd fawning but also your intelligence level not being all that high.
Nah, jk! You "da man." I mean really, you are "the man." Paid-to-post much? You're practically an agent-bot with an agenda.
Congratulations on outing yourself! Our hard-earned tax dollars at work and the effects of Obama's NDAA passing.
//
Part 4: Fact-Check COVID Stats and Vaccines
2020-09-01
FEEL “FREE” TO FACT CHECK EACH OF THESE, PLEASE!
-- "CDC admitted they screwed up COVID19 infection counts and intentionally misled the public and have apologized, clarifying that the amount of people truly infected is much lower than what was originally reported -- an error so egregious it made the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute say “how could the CDC make this mistake? This is a mess."
-- The American Coronavirus Task Force also admitted to fudging the National COVID19 death count when Dr. Birx said the deaths are people who died “with” COVID19 not “from” COVID19, thus making the real death count much lower than what is currently being reported.
-- Dr. Anthony Fauci admitted masks won’t help against the virus and mask manufacturers are now including warnings that their products do not deter COVID19.
-- Fauci also said that continuing to close the country could cause irreparable damage.
-- CDC backtracked their initial claim that led governors to shutdown their states & clarified that COVID19 does not spread easily on surfaces.
-- Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo confirmed a recent health study showing that 70% of new infections actually originate at home, thus making stay at home orders one of the most dangerous mandates currently in place.
-- Trump stopped funding the WHO and threatened to cut off money permanently until they can prove they are no longer corruptly influenced by communist China after they lied to our country about human to human transmission of COVID19 in January.
-- The curve is flattened, the CDC, WHO, Dr. Fauci, our governors, and many more were completely wrong about the potential threat of this virus.
-- If you are still living in fear, Don’t be. The media, global organizations, the government, and its agencies “mislead” the public.
-- People called those of us who knew this all along conspiracy theorists, but it turns out we were just following the facts!
-- Open up your businesses, churches, and homes. Don’t fall for the lies any longer. If you fell for the lies this time, wake up and join the army of truth seekers fighting on the front lines.
-- Florida has just admitted to miscalculations on some that received positive COVID-19 results but never got tested and many others have been incorrectly identified as positive in the state’s system.
-- WHO have just admitted that transmission of the virus from an asymptomatic carriers - the whole reason for the lockdown, is rare!! ie you could not spread it before showing any symptoms!!
-- The CDC just confirmed a .4 to .26% death-rate for Covid 19. The death rate for the flu shot is .6. Twice as high as Covid!
For that, we have:
- Added nearly 6 trillion to national debt
- Laid-off or furloughed 50 million workers
- Placed 60 million on food stamps
- Gone from 3.5%to 14.7% unemployment
- Crippled the petroleum industry
- Ruined the tourism industry
- Bankrupted the service industry
- Caused an impending meat and protein crisis
- Threatened, fined, and arrested church leaders
- Exacerbated mental health problems
- Shut down schools and colleges
- Given unbridled power to unelected officials
- Increased suicides higher than COVID deaths
- Delayed surgeries and treatments for profound illnesses
- Infringed upon countless important civil liberties
- Placed 300 million Americans on house arrest
Bill Gates has placed himself in such a position of influence by heavily funding all corners to make this lie happen.
We need to start treating it as the lie it is.
Seriously our whole way of life is at stake, and they have plans to make it much worse now introducing it as "the grand reset", "the beginning of the 4th revolution" (ie a surveillance state of control, where everyone lives in what is essentially a strick open air prison where you are tracked, nothing is private, and everything is decided for you, and you have no rights whatsoever, and there can be no resistance.
Welcome to their "new world order".
x54 Maxwell C. Bridges : vaccines have never had quite the success in "saving lives" as they claim
2022-02-
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/posts/328462902718624?notif_id=1643842066612082¬if_t=comment_mention&ref=notif
Meme. "BREAKING NEWS: Legendary musicians Crosby, Stills, and Nash join Neil Young's boycott of Spotify against Joe Rogan Because "knowingly spreading disinformation" has "deadly consequences" and "antivaxer BS" KILLS people."
This is an example of disinformation, because vaccines have never had quite the success in "saving lives" as they claim. In fact, most of their alleged gains really came from proper sanitation, clean drinking water, and nutrition.
And when you learn from the research of RFK and his interviews with medical and scientific professionals, gee, many of the trials for those vaccines killed many people.
This is the book for our times. Read it. Refute it, if you can, but this is the target that must be addressed chapter-by-chapter in order to debunk "anti-vax" sentiment that is well earned against big pharma.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808
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The Real Anthony Fauci
SIMONANDSCHUSTER.COM
x56 Sharon Ornberg : something seriously wrong with RFK
2022-02-
Maxwell Bridges There's something seriously wrong with RFK.
x58 Maxwell C. Bridges : please put your nose in RFK's book's crack before participating
2022-02-
Dear Ms. Sharon Ornberg, thank you for exhibiting all the traits of a troll, agent, or bot. I see that you made your assessment without having read RFK's book, which puts you at a HUGE disadvantage in any rational discussion, which your ad hominem doesn't hint that you'd be good at.
Come up with specifics, or go away. Debunk his book chapter by chapter, but just debunking the introductions would go a long way to your aims. But, alas, I doubt you're capable of it.
All you can do is throw tomatoes from the sidelines and aren't even listening to the words.
Next time, please put your nose in RFK's book's crack before participating here.
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x60 Sharon Ornberg : wouldn't waste my time reading his book
2022-02-
Maxwell Bridges I wouldn't waste my time reading his book, just listening to him is bad enough. He clearly has issues. If you can't see it, that's your problem, not mine.
x62 Maxwell C. Bridges : When you "read" his book, you don't have to "hear" his voice
2022-02-
Dear Ms. Sharon Ornberg, just saying someone "has issues" without specifics is an example of ad hominem and does absolutely nothing to either substantiate your claim or convince me (or any lurker readers) to change our mind to your point of view.
Get this. When you "read" his book, you don't have to "hear" his voice, which can be a bit hard on the ears [because Morgan Freeman he is not].
And something else. The book isn't his "voice". No. The book is the voice of many dozens of medical and scientific professionals who are / were outstanding in their fields [until the Fauci machine laid them low with disinformation and lack of funding].
Of course, you won't know any of that, arguing from your seemingly "strong position of willful and purposeful ignorance." Wow. Love your book reports from that lofty position of not reading it and bragging about how you won't read it, and can't be bothered even to find someone else's review / critique of RFK's book.
Your participation is no longer requested or desired. Run away. Rational discussion is beyond your capabilities. Or, it is a policy of the agenda you promote as an internet agent.
Prove you aren't a bot by quoting from RFK's book, because a major tell of a bot is a gross inability to follow links, address information from that destination, or even drag back a quote [to supposedly debunk.] I dare you to grab a quote from the website provided, drag it back, and optionally debunk it.
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x64 Sharon Ornberg : just as delusional
2022-02-
Maxwell Bridges just as delusional as he is, I see.
x66 Maxwell C. Bridges : nothing you have written in this discussion indicates original thought
2022-02-
Dear Ms. Sharon Ornberg, nothing you have written in this discussion indicates original thought. In fact, all of your short posts without specifics reeks of the database entries a bot will reach to and can be re-purposed in all sorts of discussions, so generic (and unauthentic) it is.
Go away, bot. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute here.
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2022-02-
Maxwell Bridges pftt
x70 Maxwell C. Bridges : proving my point
2022-02-
Dear Ms. Sharon Ornberg-bot, thank you for proving my point. //
x72 Sharon Ornberg : think that
2022-02-
Maxwell Bridges you would think that.
x74 Maxwell C. Bridges : five missed opportunities to participate with something meaningful
2022-02-
Dear Ms. Sharon Ornberg-bot, to paraphrase President Reagan, "there you go again." You've had five opportunities to participate with something meaningful that actually made a case and maybe would get someone to change their minds, and you screwed the pooch at each and every turn.
I particularly like your book report attempts without ever sticking your nose in the crack of RFK's book. Stellar.
Now bot, please go away. Your services are no longer required.
//
x76 Maxwell C. Bridges : artists in question do not even own their music catalogs
2022-02-
I think the Spotify problems are a fake controversy. Many of the artists in question do not even own their music catalogs (and are used to publicists using their images and putting words in their mouth). So what we're really talking about here are the capitalists who own the music catalogs making business / political decisions about who distributes the music and their percentage.
Get a two-for-one if the business move attacks in one swath multiple critics of the system. Yes, Joe Rogan is getting the brunt of it, but the reality is that this perpetuates on-going persecution of the medical and scientific professions who were his guests.
Here's something RFK found.
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Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1. 1984 / Rules and Regulations
"However, although the continued availability of the vaccine may not be in immediate jeopardy, any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives. Accordingly, because of the importance of the vaccine and of maintaining public confidence in the immunization program that depends on it, good cause exists to issue these amendments as a final rule effective immediately."
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In other words, this Joe Rogan attack isn't just par for Fauci's course of being a vindictive bastard against any and all critics, he essentially had that vindictiveness put into law in 1984.
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x78 Peter Gill : aging rockers
2022-02-
So what that now makes 12 aging rockers? Are there any young artists on this silly bandwagon?
x80 Maxwell C. Bridges : par for Fauci's course of being a vindictive bastard
2022-02-
Dear Mr. Peter Gill, aging rockers who mostly don't own their own catalogs anymore and have little say over who distributes it. Thus, [speculation] this fuss doesn't come from the aging rockers themselves -- who are used to having publicists re-use their image and whatnot --, but instead comes from the corporate owners of the music catalogs. Those owners of media might just be in bed with corporate media who are in bed with big advertisers like big pharma to promote that agenda.
Meanwhile, while reading RFK's book, he quoted something Fauci enabled in 1984.
+++
Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1. 1984 / Rules and Regulations
"However, although the continued availability of the vaccine may not be in immediate jeopardy, any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives. Accordingly, because of the importance of the vaccine and of maintaining public confidence in the immunization program that depends on it, good cause exists to issue these amendments as a final rule effective immediately."
+++
In other words, this Joe Rogan attack isn't just par for Fauci's course of being a vindictive bastard against any and all critics, he essentially had that vindictiveness put into law in 1984.
//
x82 Maxwell C. Bridges : Trying To CANCEL Joe Rogan
2022-02-
Saagar Enjeti: How Neil Young, Amazon, Hedge Funds Are Trying To CANCEL Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-AEmqvyikM
Part 5: Stratagem
x84 Maxwell C. Bridges : they war-gamed this every other year since 2000
2022-02-13
The scary part is, they gamed this almost every year since 2000, and such "care" was planned in the psychological operation to illicit the response (e.g., depression leading to death) that they wanted.
RFK, Jr. wrote about this in the latter chapters of his new book, which should be the cross we bear to let everyone know about the crimes against humanity by capitalists. How the downfall of democracy (world-wide) fell to the Fauci/Gates virus-fear-mongers and toxic vaccine promoters.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808
//
x86 Maxwell C. Bridges : the damning, crimes-against-humanity truth is out there
2022-02-13
Oh, the damning, crimes-against-humanity truth is out there, and RFK's book collects copies of the receipts.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808
//
The Real Anthony Fauci
SIMONANDSCHUSTER.COM
x88 Nicholas DeVincenzo : A stratagem for prosecution
2022-02-13
Maxwell Bridges A stratagem for prosecution . . .
x90 Maxwell C. Bridges : an optimistic sliver of hope
2022-02-13
Dear Mr. Nicholas DeVincenzo, that is certainly an optimistic sliver of hope. Alas, I'm becoming an old jaded fart. I see the wheels of justice too gummed up with pay-offs from ill-gotten profits of the system. Too much monetary incentive to perpetuate the bad.
//
x92 Nicholas DeVincenzo : pushback against the plannedemic is tremendous
2022-02-13
Maxwell Bridges One thing for certain the pushback against the plannedemic is tremendous, we are at a major crossroads on this, not that they don't have plan b and on and on in the works. The masses either wakes up or we head off to a digitally controlled dystopian future . . .
x94 Maxwell C. Bridges : astounded about countries all over the world implementing similar strategies in lock-step with one another
2022-02-13
Dear Mr. Nicholas DeVincenzo, I was astounded about countries all over the world implementing similar strategies in lock-step with one another, until I see neatly collected for me in RFK's well-researched work all of the pandemic war gaming Gates (et al) have been doing annually since before the turn of the century. They'd invite high level representatives from various countries and agencies (and controlled press) to participate, and in this way hypnosis was spread top-down.
RFK pointed out some common traits that all of the war games shared. None of the war games emphasized re-purposed medicines, nutrition, and healthy habits. All of them put forth censorship, propaganda, and silver-bullet vaccines. They worked hard at keeping certain revelations from public knowledge, like "bio-weapons research morphed into gain-of-function research, which exposed a loop-hole in the banning of bio-weapons development -- permission to research vaccines that might be needed to combat bio-weapons, which in turn means developing bio-weapons on which to test the vaccines."
The powers-that-be have many plans. Transhumanism seems not far on the horizon, given our ready human addiction to net-connections via smart phones. Nano-bots and jabs might just take us there. And if it doesn't, then all of the conditioning was done in vane by Marvel, zombie, vampire, werewolf, ... thinking that a jab of something (toxic) will individually make a person a super being.
//
x96 Maxwell C. Bridges : surprised that it was made available and not burned right off the presses
2022-02-13
Dear Mr. Alex Funk, I've made it to the afterword in RFK's book, and am surprised that it was made available and not burned right off the presses. More power to the publisher and their wise words given in their introduction.
I highly recommend this book, even though it will make rational, science-loving, health-loving citizens very angry.
I've been posting links to the book for a while in various relevant discussions. To date, the only ones to chime in negatively were clearly agents and bots. They went directly to attacking the messenger.
Agent-Bot: "RFK, Jr. is a horrible person."
Me: "You make the claim, you defend it with specifics."
Agent-Bot: *silence*
This is before we get into the specifics of the book, because they ain't never going there. Why? Bots can't follow links (or drag bag quotes or specifics), and both agents and bots have areas that are "radioactive" to tread upon, because nothing exists in there counter-narrative to discredit the messages in the book.
Worse, it has footnotes out the wazoo, and so many quotations from reputable medical and scientific experts, and the very words of the perpetrators, that the half-wit agents might be tempted to claim RFK's entire book is plagiarized. Except that by properly attributing quotes to their person and referencing to the source in the footnotes where those quoted words originally appear, this handy habit of good researchers nips that little plagiarism strawman in the bud. Amazing how that works! And truly, to debunk RFK, you'd have to go into each footnote and determine the (in)validity of that data source and of what RFK datamined.
//
Part 6: Vaccine Safety Doubt -- exist it cannot
x98 Maxwell C. Bridges : any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist
2022-02-05
If we give any credence to "predictive programming", what are we subconsciously telling ourselves when we watch, say, Marvel super heroes who got their powers by getting something injected/ingested into themselves? (Captain America, Hulk, Spider-man, The Black Panther, Nick Cage, Deadpool, The Witcher, Venom, "In from the Cold", ... +++
Then there are the werewolf and vampires series, although old, that have this trend where ~you~ can become a super human version of yourself (with some drawbacks) if you get yourself bitten or drink the blood, or whatever hocky rules.
In many ways, this fantasy is ruining our critical thinking, because the advertisement for the mRNA technology even at version one-dot-oh is that it is "programming the body".
The issue is, the vaccine technology has never been wonderful, and its many failures largely shielded from knowledge and buried in other headline news, and "we aren't in Africa or India, and can't give a hoot about their complaints against Gates, WHO, etc."
And if your eyes are open, the mRNA tech at version one-dot-oh isn't going to be wonderful either. No super powers for you. RFK's book has the receipts.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808
Here's an interesting quote from the 1984 Federal Registry that RFK brought to our attention. Fauci put this regulation in, and it explains our predicament... even with Joe Rogan.
Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1. 1984 / Rules and Regulations
"However, although the continued availability of the vaccine may not be in immediate jeopardy, any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives. Accordingly, because of the importance of the vaccine and of maintaining public confidence in the immunization program that depends on it, good cause exists to issue these amendments as a final rule effective immediately."
+++
I am an anti-vaxxer and can argue that case from four different perspectives:
1) The science. The medical professionals quoted in RFK's book and coincidentally banned and de-platformed will be who I refer debate opponents to.
2) The politics. Capitalism rears its ugly head.
3) Spirituality / Faith . I was raised Christian Science and know it to be one (of many) viable alternatives to the germ-warfare beliefs.
4) Aliens.
I saved "aliens" for last, because I know people will want that expounded upon. Of the many who have vested interests and concerns for humans and Earth, the Pleiadians are us from our past, but also our future. Their concern is that a juncture point in human development has been reached where we have a choice in the direction we go.
Over the last few decades (based on old books I've read recently), they are a bit cagey in spelling out what the decision was, so that is partly why I believed the dreaded decision was "the borging of humanity" as we all got ourselves not just tied up with technology on our attention, but even customer-demanding implants when that becomes a thing, because "predictive programming" and wanting to have our hands free.
That might still be our bane, but now I'm thinking that the bigger choice was acceptance of mRNA technology and its implications on what the body does for itself versus what injections tell the body to do over time, as this new technology sweeps the old vaccine stuff under the rug.
For all we know, neural health issues from vaccines might be done to make the body acceptive of technological implants (and nanobots).
However, the actual data from vaccines has been a toxic one, so the real issue might be sterilization and earlier death to get the planet's population reduced from 6.8 billion to 0.5 billion, as per the Georgia Guidestones.
So under the rubic of predictive programming that we'll become super heroes for getting a jab, we effectively cull ourselves and successive generations, and leave a very unhealthy lot in the "left-behind" who scream at us from the future: "make a different decision, go a different direction, make a different parallel universe based on that changed decision."
BTW, the vaccine mandates could go either direction. Something might be unleashed from their gain-of-function research that culls the unvaccinated and leaves the vaccinated. Or it could cull the vaccinated and leave the unvaccinated. I'm not sure it will be a great outcome / world for whoever is left-behind.
I think problems could be solved without capitalism steering us in false directions, with different leaders. The US government (of many) is so screwed up, the only real solution is to vote (for example) the US out of existence and establish what we want. The only hook in that plan is that the power vacuum created might lead us into an even worse situation -- from the frying pan into the fire in terms of dysfunctional leadership.
//
x100 Maxwell C. Bridges : The humans presently occupying earth were the DNA dumbed-down models created illegally as slaves.
2022-05-
Dear Mr. Darris Mishler, Your analogy began to lose me. Why does the prince turn toxic after the marriage? What does the marriage signify if we are the lowly princess? What does the adoption of the prince to the King who takes orders from elsewhere have to do with anything?
On a different theme, the King taking orders from elsewhere is worthy of discussion and might even bring -- heaven forbid -- "the galactic federation" into the discussion.
Here's my bat-shit crazy speculation into the matter. The humans presently occupying earth were the DNA dumbed-down models created illegally as slaves. When this crime was discovered, one option was to exterminate the project. The other was to give us an opportunity to grow to our potential (unlock our DNA) and ascent, because deep down we're spiritual entities occupying a temporal mortal body.
In part because we are dumbed-down and easily motivated by money (and other things) to act against our own best interests, we've grown too many on the planet and have proved to be poor stewards of Earth's well-being.
So one part of the galactic war is going for the Georgian Guidestone recommendation of 0.5 billion (down from 7.8 billion) human population. In many ways, that could be a worthy thing to achieve over the next half century. Although Covid is one of many human-created events to cull, the actual death numbers are "normal" from Covid. Because the vaccine and certainly a dependence on such -- together with climate change, extreme weather events, drought, famine, war -- can accelerate the Eugenics style de-population, they are on track.
Getting culled -- my expected fate -- isn't the worst fate. No, if people haven't done their spiritual work this life time, they risk a karmic repetition of the cycle in the next life. But if the human numbers are being reduced, the opportunity to incarnate again and overcome karmic patterns is taken away. And the Zeitgeist of those left after the culling won't be providing a suitable environment for those incarnating again to be able to grow, thrive, and ascend. Instead of ascension, the re-incarnations spiral down negatively, emotionally. That is the dark agenda.
The agenda of the light -- whether or not the worthiness of the human culling is discussed -- is that if humans ascend into their birthright spirituality, they won't be re-incarnating. And there won't be the problem of too many re-incarnating souls for the culled population and controlled birth rate (and bad environments). ... Because, like, man, we'll ascend beyond that to the next plane of existence.
As a white male, I can't help but point to the need for a whole lot of culling needed to the white herd. In America, top of the list ought to be Trump supporters [and Clinton, Biden supporters in the list somewhere.] They have enough comorbidites to be bio-weapon covid targets with or without vaccines.
My thoughts are not ripe on the matter. What I do know is that every time we humans do things for money (or to save money) that are against our own best interests, that is practically an "alien agenda". The nuclear arms race? Only really makes sense if there were some alien agendas at play / at war. Plastics for food packaging and everything else? The pollution of the planet only makes sense as an alien agenda; we cull ourselves while on our hamster treadmills.
//
x102 Maxwell C. Bridges : Covid-19 was designed to be highly infectious between humans
2022-05-
The truth is more nefarious. Covid-19 was designed to be highly infectious between humans and to exasperate comorbidities [such as those that Big Ag has been causing, like obesity]. It was designed to cull the herd, if left untreated. Another dark truth is that their corona-virus research in previous variants already determined what effective treatments would be re-purposing existing medicines. They deliberately suppressed this information, manufactured disinformation about it, and spread this about. [Recall the HCQ and IVM circuses that resulted and even got clown Trump yapping his jaws, but correctly it seems on this one point.] Those other treatments no longer had patent protection and would not make the CDC and Big Pharma nearly as much money as even a failed and sucky vaccine they cranked up and administered to the population without any animal trials or long-term studies.
RFK, Jr. has the receipts.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/.../Childr.../9781510766808
//
x104 Julie Heye and Shame Us O Sugaroo : the clown Trump
2022-05-
Julie Heye
I appreciated your comment until you got to the clown Trump.
Shame Us O Sugaroo
Julie Heye Yep, Mr. warp speed "get the booster, I did" Trumperdoodles waiting for saint donny to come save their asses is a new form of dumb gullible stupidity. The fact that these stooges are ALL staged up on us is the key.
x106 Maxwell C. Bridges : "disruption" is a kind of "distraction"
2022-05-
Dear Ms. Julie Heye, You seem offended by the phrase "clown Trump." I don't know why; it most certainly applies and is the very reason the PTB allowed criminal, confidential informant, sexual predator, pedophile Trump to be vetted through selection process. Trump was the loud, bellacouse distraction needed so that the public would be focused on his tweets and gaffes, and not on the undermining of America from within or the very notion of "truth".
I finally come to understand Trump supporters. They knew the political establishment was corrupt and change hard. Trump pushed all the right buttons in their beliefs about how he was going to disrupt the system that wasn't serving them. The supporters didn't care about Trump's immorality, criminality, or dishonesty; they wanted a disruption so that change could break free.
Alas, "disruption" is a kind of "distraction", and was "destruction" in many ways [details upon request]. The level of boldfaced lies that could be peddled and get the (social) media hamster wheels spinning about! That is exactly what clowns do. Own it.
Certainly, Mr. Shame Us O Sugaroo, the name "Operation Warp Speed" alone proves the militarization of big Pharma, ready to send a literal army to give you a jab of what they just developed: version one-dot-oh with no animal trials, no small initial trials on humans, and no long-term studies.
Just shows how Biden was a continuation of larger agendas.
//
x108 Matt Landman : to incarnate in material physicalit
2022-05-05
to incarnate in material physicality a bit of density may be necessary.. but to what end and to what degree is up to us.
MEME:
think i get it now.... earth is the highest dimension of hell and the lowest dimension of heaven, acting as some sort of inter-dimensional way-station, where entities from all dimensions congregate to observe and manipulate humans as they either levl up or down in dimensions.
x110 Karen Sterling : Earth is purgatory
2022-05-05
Earth is purgatory
x112 Maxwell C. Bridges : all of sudden lots of souls will be set free and will be without a human to be born into
2022-05-05
Dear Ms. Karen Sterling, I respectfully disagree. Earth is a preparatory school in our path to ascension. It is what must be overcome to get to the next level, and without progress (e.g., in loving) death re-incarnates your soul but on an already downward spiral. Now in this lifetime we are expected to turn our karma around and spiral upwards. Why re-incarnate when you can ascend?
Bat-shit crazy speculation: the Georgia Guidestone edicts to reduce human population from 7.8 billion to only 0.5 billion is in progress. Aided by vaccines and man-made bio-weapons aimed at our very DNA and wars, and of course climate change.
THE GALATIC ISSUE is that all of sudden (over 10-20 years), lots of souls will be set free and will be without a human to be born into.
If we can take the human footsteps to be right spiritually and demonstrate more love for one another, across the planet, and most importantly FOR THE PLANET, that might be the trigger that helps us individually ascend. YMMV. Our ascension is individual, and precludes even needing a human lifeform to inhabit, so not really an issue if the earth really does do better with a reduced human infestation.
Yeah, and when we don't take those human footsteps in this earth preparatory school and given that population reduction and eugenics limits and controls of the human DNA gene pool, your soul might find itself adrift, and maybe susceptible to being re-incarnated into a lesser life form -- except that our poor stewardship of the environment is killing off those too. Clones, maybe? Still, it is a downward spiral of karma that we have the power to change.
Souls adrift is the issue, not the culling itself. We all gonna die.
//
x114 Karen Sterling : disagree all you want 😃
2022-05-05
Maxwell Bridges haha Tl.dr
But I'm not so sure purgatory is any different than a stop on the way up or down.
I'm not Catholic
It's just a word.
So disagree all you want 😃
x116 Karen Sterling : What a waste of time 😂
2022-05-05
What a waste of time 😂
x118 Karen Sterling : You need to work on your karma 🤷ðŸ¼"♀ï¸ðŸ•‰ï¸â˜¯ï
2022-05-05
Just to prove a complete stranger wrong?
You succeeded in proving you are petty and arrogant.
You need to work on your karma 🤷ðŸ¼"♀ï¸ðŸ•‰ï¸â˜¯ï¸
x120 Maxwell C. Bridges : "waste of time" reading of the TL;DR
2022-05-05
Dear Ms. Karen Sterling, So you brag that what I wrote was "too long; didn't read" in one comment, and then in two further comments about something you "didn't read" you write "what a waste of time" and then "proving you are petty and arrogant."
You could have edited your first comment with your new views after reading what was "TL;DR", assuming that position changed based on your "waste of time" reading of the "TL;DR" and resulting judgment call. But hey, I could be wrong on that assumption.
It isn't up to me to prove you, a complete stranger, wrong. If you want to be right about earth being purgatory, by all means, hold to that belief and its precipitating karma. I was just planting seeds that grow different fruit.
Yes, I do indeed need to work on my karma. That was the point that went right over your head. We all need to work on our karma.
//
Part 7: Predictive Programming and Injected Superheroes
x122 Maxwell C. Bridges : "predictive programming" injected super heroes
2022-02-24
https://www.facebook.com/maxwell.bridges.148/posts/3041534782774356?notif_id=1652754820667111¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
2022-02-04
If we give any credence to "predictive programming", what are we subconsciously telling ourselves when we watch, say, Marvel super heroes who got their powers by getting something injected/ingested into themselves? (Captain America, Hulk, Spider-man, The Black Panther, Nick Cage, Deadpool, The Witcher, Venom, "In from the Cold", ...
Then there are the werewolf and vampires series, although old, that have this trend where ~you~ can become a super human version of yourself (with some drawbacks) if you get yourself bitten or drink the blood, or whatever hocky rules.
In many ways, this fantasy is ruining our critical thinking, because the advertisement for the mRNA technology even at version one-dot-oh is that it is "programming the body".
The issue is, the vaccine technology has never been wonderful, and its many failures largely shielded from knowledge and buried in other headline news, and "we aren't in Africa or India, and can't give a hoot about their complaints against Gates, WHO, etc."
And if your eyes are open, the mRNA tech at version one-dot-oh isn't going to be wonderful either. No super powers for you. RFK's book has the receipts.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/.../Childr.../9781510766808
Here's an interesting quote from the 1984 Federal Registry that RFK brought to our attention. Fauci put this regulation in, and it explains our predicament... even with Joe Rogan.
+++
Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1. 1984 / Rules and Regulations
"However, although the continued availability of the vaccine may not be in immediate jeopardy, any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives. Accordingly, because of the importance of the vaccine and of maintaining public confidence in the immunization program that depends on it, good cause exists to issue these amendments as a final rule effective immediately."
+++
I am an anti-vaxxer and can argue that case from four different perspectives:
1) The science. The medical professionals quoted in RFK's book and coincidentally banned and de-platformed will be who I refer debate opponents to.
2) The politics. Capitalism rears its ugly head.
3) Spirituality / Faith . I was raised Christian Science and know it to be one (of many) viable alternatives to the germ-warfare beliefs.
4) Aliens.
I saved "aliens" for last, because I know people will want that expounded upon. Of the many who have vested interests and concerns for humans and Earth, the Pleiadians are us from our past, but also our future. Their concern is that a juncture point in human development has been reached where we have a choice in the direction we go.
Over the last few decades (based on old books I've read recently), they are a bit cagey in spelling out what the decision was, so that is partly why I believed the dreaded decision was "the borging of humanity" as we all got ourselves not just tied up with technology on our attention, but even customer-demanding implants when that becomes a thing, because "predictive programming" and wanting to have our hands free.
That might still be our bane, but now I'm thinking that the bigger choice was acceptance of mRNA technology and its implications on what the body does for itself versus what injections tell the body to do over time, as this new technology sweeps the old vaccine stuff under the rug.
For all we know, neural health issues from vaccines might be done to make the body acceptive of technological implants (and nanobots).
However, the actual data from vaccines has been a toxic one, so the real issue might be sterilization and earlier death to get the planet's population reduced from 6.8 billion to 0.5 billion, as per the Georgia Guidestones.
So under the rubic of predictive programming that we'll become super heroes for getting a jab, we effectively cull ourselves and successive generations, and leave a very unhealthy lot in the "left-behind" who scream at us from the future: "make a different decision, go a different direction, make a different parallel universe based on that changed decision."
BTW, the vaccine mandates could go either direction. Something might be unleashed from their gain-of-function research that culls the unvaccinated and leaves the vaccinated. Or it could cull the vaccinated and leave the unvaccinated. I'm not sure it will be a great outcome / world for whoever is left-behind.
I think problems could be solved without capitalism steering us in false directions, with different leaders. The US government (of many) is so screwed up, the only real solution is to vote (for example) the US out of existence and establish what we want. The only hook in that plan is that the power vacuum created might lead us into an even worse situation -- from the frying pan into the fire in terms of dysfunctional leadership.
//
2022-05-16
https://www.facebook.com/maxwell.bridges.148/posts/3041534782774356?notif_id=1652754820667111¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
x124 Darris Mishler : Great book
2022-02-24
Great book.
The first four chapters are for sleepers but they're great for sucking the sleepers into the hard truths that follow from chapter five on.
x126 Maxwell C. Bridges : saddened by the erosion of truth
2022-02-24
Dear Mr. Darris Mishler, I don't remember what happened in what chapters, so suspenseful was RFK's work. Okay, maybe "suspenseful" isn't the right word. It focused my understanding and anger, in part at myself, because had I been paying attention to publications all those years, I'd have already known the truths that he brought to light. The truths that condemn those behind the Helgian Covid action, reaction, resolution.
RFK on the subject of medicine is like Dr. David Griffin on the subject of 9/11. They teach us well how to combat disinformation (aka "the official narrative"): point by fucking point, each error or fallacy not just exposed but why it is in error and what the truth is most likely to be [because sometimes, the active cover-up is so well funded and proficient, the public doesn't know the depth of the rabbit holes.]
Or just as importantly, the public while plumping themselves with Big Ag and Big Food manufactured foods as they watch episode after episode over many seasons the shows from today and from yesterday [meaning last century] from a 24/7 content streamer whose monthly membership fee they work to pay, so that the public doesn't have the bandwidth or the interest to go down rabbit holes that are populated left-and-right with disinformation branches (controlled opposition). In other words, the public keeps themselves away from reading a researched work like RFK's, because their attention-deficit syndrome has their attention spanned shorted for our modern day bread and circus.
I am very saddened by the erosion of truth, the growth of lies through the official narrative, and the button-pushing by deceitful powers. Abortion was settled law, but now American Christian theocracy wants to give granddaughters fewer rights than their mothers and grandmothers in a very parallel way with the right to refuse vaccines.
They've always said that public's political mores was a pendulum swinging from left to right and back again in an okay balance over time. With Trump and the present GOP and Biden and the feckless Democrats, that pendulum has swung as far right as it should. Public awareness of Democratic Socialism would swing it gracefully to the left. Alas, that's only in a sincere and truthful environment. The error and lies and the public narrative today, they are moving the pendulum to the right; they are moving the pendulum's fulcrum to the right. Meaning, the swinging pendulum of the public's political mores will never be able to go to the left nearly as far as it should.
//
Part 8: Curing Conspiratards: ChatGPT Training Ground for Pushin PTB Agenda in Shaping the Narrative
x128 Maxwell C. Bridges : keep their lifespan short and their minds weak
2022-10-11
2022-10-11
{mcb: meme posted by me 2022-01-18 about "We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to to the opposite..."}
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x130 Joel Sassone : mentally ill bullshit here
2022-10-11
Joel Sassone
What the fuck is this mentally ill bullshit here?
2022-10-11
Joel Sassone precisely
x134 Ax Eye Om : paranoid gullible nitwit psychotic dribble
2022-10-11
Ax Eye Om
get help
{mcb: meme posted by me 2022-03-22 about Epstein's oligarchs child sex trafficking got overshadowed by a mega flu ritual.}
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Ax Eye Om
paranoid psychotic dribble
{mcb: meme posted by me 2022-01-25 about "We tried to tell you but you wouldn't listen... awaken"
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Ax Eye Om
because you're a paranoid gullible nitwit
{mcb: meme posted by me 2022-09-23 about MSM approved "experts" versus the silenced and censored.}
https://www.facebook.com/maxwell.bridges.148/posts/pfbid02zV71KCv1ryrL3rB6DwWXhhFjQVkHfcoahA7DTkcHyDrEJTYBvE1QBYo4q16LCmmbl?comment_id=1563816860730627¬if_id=1665448379114977¬if_t=feed_comment&ref=notif
Ax Eye Om
it's called scientific consensus you muppet
x136 Maxwell C. Bridges : next subroutines step through my home feed not just in a "getting to know me" manner
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, Should it be any surprise that once your bot-algorithms received the accepted friend request, those next subroutines would have you step through my home feed not just in a "getting to know me" manner?!! Some "friend" you turned out to be.
When potentially flagging a re-posted meme on my FB wall for the potential errors in its ways, you seemed to have skipped over entirely the portion of your reply that would identify and then refute one-by-one any ill-conceived notions in the meme! Why, had you done that, as any true "friend" would have done, I would have been thankful and grateful for efforts to improve my understanding!
But no. Ax Eye Om bot, you did not do that. You skipped right to the ad hominem that wasn't even aimed at the mysterious creator of the ideas of the meme, or at the meme's creator, but directly at me.
Here, across four different postings of mine, Ax Eye Om bot seems to want to instigate a flame war. Here's his hypnotic suggestion in all their glory.
+++ quote Ax Eye Om bot
- get help
- paranoid psychotic dribble
- because you're a paranoid gullible nitwit
- it's called scientific consensus you muppet
+++ end quote Ax Eye Om bot
Ax Eye Om bot, if this is the depth of your wisdom and understanding, if this is how you treat new "friends", if this is your idea of debate, I WILL HAVE NO PART IN IT. If you continue to spam my postings, I'll report you while un-friending you.
On the other hand, if your bot algorithms wants to attempt a reasoned discussion, you get to CHOOSE ONE location (where you spammed me and this reply appears) to further your case with substantiation on why specific content from the meme might be "paranoid psychotic dribble".
However, because I'm not a bot who can spawn himself across many different postings and threads (to reply to what is presumed the same entity), I'll not engage you elsewhere. PICK ONE. Further, if you attempt a mutli-thread engagement while completely avoiding ideas and concepts from the achoring meme, I will flag that as a lack of sincerity in your engagement and will begin to ruthlessly remove your continued presence, as is my priviledge as owner of the posting on my FB wall.
My prediction: I don't think your bot-algorithms can read, much less comprehend much below a FB "See more..." content break, including this sentence here. Despite being told not to, you will attempt a multi-thread rebuttal assault with nary but ad hominem in a "non-American" accent with bad punctuation, as if composed on a smartphone while sitting on a toilet. To wit, nearly all of your replies will be short enough never to need a "See more..." content break, and for sure the short content will not make any statement stemming from the seed meme. Most replies will be database one-liners from the "ad hominem" table, "non-American" accent, randomly selected.
Okay, latter-day lurker readers! Let's observe which, if any, of my predictions of Ax Eye Om bot's behaviorial algorithm paths gets exercised!
Return Sub;
//
x138 Maxwell C. Bridges : you muppet
2022-10-11
{mcb: "you muppet"}
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges WHY DO YOU EVADE MY ANSWER?
{mcb: "get help"}
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges HOW DARE YOU!
x140 Lesley Margaret Jones : Greta?🤔
2022-10-11
Ax Eye Om is your name Greta?🤔
x142 Ax Eye Om : no need to get smart
2022-10-11
Lesley Margaret Jones there's no need to get smart
{mcb: "paranoid pyschotic dribble"}
x144 Ax Eye Om : stop reading bitchute
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges stop reading bitchute!
x146 Maxwell C. Bridges : Here I sit, all disappointed
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, As a reply to the same comment but under three different discussion postings, your attempt to further each discussion in a rational and reasonable way amounted to:
+++ quote Ax Eye Om bot
- WHY DO YOU EVADE MY ANSWER?
- HOW DARE YOU!
- stop reading bitchute!
+++ end quote Ax Eye Om bot
And to be fair to the first point about me allegedly "evading his answer", allow me to list them again in their entirety.
+++ quote Ax Eye Om bot
- get help
- paranoid psychotic dribble
- because you're a paranoid gullible nitwit
- it's called scientific consensus you muppet
+++ end quote Ax Eye Om bot
Here I sit, all disappointed, because what was hoped would be an interesting, in-depth, learned discussion has outed itself from the onset to be flame-baiting from Ax Eye Om bot.
If that is all you have, please un-friend yourself now.
If I error in my assessment, you have one thread to prove me wrong and that you can behave with thought-filled and intelligent conversation.
Return Sub("meh");
//
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges did man land on the moon?
x150 Maxwell C. Bridges : under a posting about pedophile oligarchs unleashing a mega flu
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, under a posting about pedophile oligarchs unleashing a mega flu, beneath a thread started by you opining a position that you do not defend, you throw out a subsequent fork to the discussion with the deviant attempt at a gotcha question: "did man land on the moon?"
To which I respond in a promoted manner (not buried under that "paranoid psychotic dribble" thread): "Has man solved the issues of safely traversing the radiation belt surrounding our planet just outside low earth orbit?"
Because the answer to my question is "no" (or if at all, only in recent years but not tested), logically it answers your question: "no, the 1960's technology was insufficient to land a man on the moon, much less return him safely alive, but it was sufficient to instigate a media hoax in the cold war with Russia, make Americans feel superior, etc." In other words, a successful, large scale, psychological operation.
Man landing on the moon. Probably didn't happen, except for unmanned probes and satellite fly-by's.
//
x152 Ax Eye Om : Conspiratard Deprogramming Keys
2022-10-11
Conspiratard Deprogramming Keys:
- Where are the insider whistleblowers?
- How do you know more than the experts?
- You must feel special with your secret knowledge insiders are too scared to speak up about.
- Get a grip you gullible twit
x154 Maxwell C. Bridges : outing your agency agenda
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, Thank you for outing your agency agenda!
When you ask for all of the whistleblowers, you neglect to mention the stiff consequences [and treason charges, harassment, retaliation, loss of livelihood, untimely deaths of them or loved ones, etc.] that actual whistleblowers endured. You neglect to mention the deliberate messaging by the President of the US fucking A: "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
Your question is malframed: "How do you know more than the experts?"
It isn't a question of knowing more. The so-called "experts" rarely disagree in any substantial (let alone "public") fashion with those who fund them. It is a question of being candid with all they know and even expressing doubts. They aren't paid to speak out of the box. The difference between "approved and unapproved" reference sources may depend on profit motive over safety (whether national or personal).
Furthermore, many "experts" have non-disclosure agreements. When it comes to national security, those NDA's come with charges of treason, punishable by death in cases. This is why no large group nuclear scientists spoke up about 9/11, or why not government scientist in a virus lab spoke up about COVID's funding and research origins (leading directly to "respected" Dr. Fauci himself).
Yes, insiders truly are scared to speak up. They know which side their bread is buttered on and by whom. There have been cases of untimely deaths. This is the whole point of Epstein. You don't have to threaten people with death; if you learn their vices, you can entrap them: (a) either the threatened perform the agenda while gleefully continuing their vice, or (b) the vice gets exposed and nothing continues gleefully.
"Get a grip you gullible twit" must be an entry in your bot database. You've used it against me, with the same punctuation.
Except for one thing that amazes me in your punctuation. How did you get the bullets into your original posting?
//
x156 Ax Eye Om : not for your crackpot conspiracy theories?
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges why are there whblowers in the dangerous fields of the military and police but not for your crackpot conspiracy theories??? think carefully
x158 Kylie Hirst : No "whistle blowers" are being offed in Australia
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges bahahaha!! No "whistle blowers" are being offed in Australia, that's how we know that none of this conspiracy crap is real.
x160 Ax Eye Om : take your time
2022-10-11
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges take your time
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges ??
x162 Maxwell C. Bridges : adequately explain what my theories are
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, please do not be making claims that you are unwilling or unable to defend. Here's the two new unsupported hypnotic suggestion: (1) that my conspiracy theories are "crackpot", and (2) that you even know or can adequately explain what my theories are, before applying your quick-draw label.
Think carefully: when your financial livelihood depends on you toeing a line, when your own vices will be encouraged so they can be used as leverage against you, when your own health as well as that of your loved ones can be impacted, WHAT BENEFIT DO ANY OF THE WHISTLEBLOWERS GET?
Not riches. Not useful fame. Not even freedom in most cases.
Thanks for your attempt at a false argument.
Think carefully. You invited me to join your crackpot group, "Curing Conspiratards." Are you sure that is what you want: to have your ass and all the asses of your like minded bots handed to you by a better, more articulate, more researched, more reasoned opponent who is on the side of Truth?!!
I'll await your answer.
//
x164 Ax Eye Om : answer my question
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges now perhaps you could answer my question: why are there whblowers in the dangerous fields of the military and police but not for your crackpot conspiracy theories??? think carefully
x166 Maxwell C. Bridges : the extent of your reasoned debate algorithms
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, I have championed many conspiracy theories over the years. Please identify the one or ones that are "crackpot" and why? I'm open to new information and analysis, and have been known to change my views [and publicly apologize] -- it was because I identified what was "crackpot".
So do me the solid of identifying the errors in my way [e.g., defend your assertions]...
Or stop dropping your hypnotic assertions and flame-bait.
In fact, if this <- above and our history -> is the extent of your reasoned debate algorithms, why would accepting an FB invitation to your "Curing Conspiratards" FB group benefit me? Why did you invite me? What can I expect in my treatment?
//
x168 Ax Eye Om : remove the word "crackpot"
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges remove the word "crackpot" and answer the question!!!
x170 Maxwell C. Bridges : which theory got your panties in a wad
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-son, Me no understand your overly broad question, because I do not know which theory got your panties in a wad. State the theory that I champion where supposedly there are no "whistleblowers in the dangerous fields of the military and police" in favor of the same.
What theory did I get wrong, bot? The onus is on you.
Once I know what you are even talking about of my stable of conspiracy theories, then I'll be able to answer your question in a logical fashion.
Hint. You can go to my blog.
//
x172 Maxwell C. Bridges : don't need to "off" someone if you can contain them
2022-10-11
Dear Ms. Kylie Hirst, You wrote: "No "whistle blowers" are being offed in Australia, that's how we know that none of this conspiracy crap is real."
No whistle blowers that you know of, at any rate. And would you even know they were being offed if they just suddenly had a heart attack in the middle of a football match or other more mundane setting, and have vaccine conspiracies thrown at it as well.
You don't need to "off" someone if you can contain them; contain their voice; contain their social outreach; contain the algorithms of their social feeds.
Censorship was a common feature across the globe, thanks to the preparetory work of Bill Gates.
//
x174 Ax Eye Om : conspiracy theory of your choice
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges pick a conspiracy theory of your choice! and quit stalling!
x176 Ax Eye Om : a deathbed confession
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges "You don't need to "off" someone if you can contain them; contain their voice; contain their social outreach; contain the algorithms of their social feeds." -------- what prevents a deathbed confession uploaded to the web and picked up by several of millions blogs??
x178 Maxwell C. Bridges : out yourself as a liar?
2022-10-11
Damit, Mr. Ax Eye Om bot! Why did you so quickly out yourself as a liar? You said my theories are crackpot, refuse to say which theory of mine is crackpot, leaves it up to me to pick one of my theories as allegedly being crackpot ...
The onus is on you. Do some research.
What benefit would a death-bed conspirator achieve, for himself, for his family, for his government, for his nation? And what if death or severe ailment happened before the confession? Oh, my!
//
x180 Ax Eye Om : GET A GRIP YOU GULLIBLE TWIT!
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges IT ONLY TAKES ONE! THERE ARE WHBLOWERS EVERWHERE EXCEPT FOR A SINGLE ONE OF YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORIES!! ... GET A GRIP YOU GULLIBLE TWIT!
x182 Maxwell C. Bridges : dropping hypnotic suggestion alleging my theories are crackpot
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, I agree; it only takes one death-bed whistleblower to shore up one of my conspiracy theories. That isn't the issue. You've been dropping hypnotic suggestion alleging my theories are crackpot, without being able to articulate a single one of them. Why then, dear sir, would you expect me to cough up some piece of evidence (that my theories don't even need in order to be valid)? That reeks of busy work. No. You go to my blog and identify which theory is crackpot and report back here. Then, possibly, I'll have something valid to answer to from your astute analysis of their crackpot ways. The ball is, and has been, in your court, love. Do endeavor to be better in defending your position! //
x184 Maxwell C. Bridges : rude posting your flame bait directly to my FB wall
2022-10-11
Also, Mr. Ax Eye Om, that was rude to be posting your flame bait directly to my FB wall! I deleted it, but HOW DARE YOU?!! Why don't you post that to your own wall? What did it have to do with me? You never made your case.
So now, you're not just a liar, you're a rude liar who couldn't make an argument to get a D- on his writing test, can't follow links to blogs, can't research there (obviously), and goes to all manner of gyrations to avoid any details, but to generically flame-bait a time suck. On my own FB wall, no less.
Because you're a bot, I doubt you'll even acknowledge the wall-posting action that now sits in the delete folder, won't acknowledge the defeat of the plan, or even the plan itself. Prove me wrong.
//
x186 Ax Eye Om : all conspiracy theories are crackpot!
2022-10-11
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges all conspiracy theories are crackpot! name one that isn't!!!
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges still waiting .....
x188 Maxwell C. Bridges : onus was on you
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, Nice deflection. And who's the twit? Didn't you learn that over-generalizations -- "all conspiracy theories are crackpot!" -- shouldn't be used in rigorous discourse, because it only takes one exception to disprove it.
I'll not rub your nose in your inability to defend "theory X, theory Y, and theory Z -- being subset of the "all" -- are crackpot", regardless of X, Y, and Z specifically, which do exist in ample number in reality, with Factinate and Factoid pages to validate them. Your bot algorithms aren't detailed enough to handle the many exceptions that quickly and decisively disprove your hypnotic assertions and exposes them as flame-bait, only that, and nothing more.
No, the onus was on you to take a subset of the "all" where X, Y, and Z were specifically theories that I champion and that you believe are crackpot. Pony up, cowboy.
P.S. (a) Time for sleep. (b) Your insincerity and lack of depth or even a single specific is flagging you as a bot-time-suck. For that reason, don't be holding your breath for instant responses from now on. Therefore, take the opportunity to write more in one comment, because I won't be responding to it today or promptly anyway.
//
x190 Ax Eye Om : sophistry twaddle
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges all that sophistry twaddle to avoid answering both my questions ... your intellectual dishonesty is off the charts!
x192 Maxwell C. Bridges : Name the conspiracy theory that I champion and that you think is crackpot
2022-10-11
Name the conspiracy theory that I champion and that you think is crackpot, so this conversation can be furthered. //
x194 Ax Eye Om : all of them
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges all of them!!! .. got it now?
x196 Kylie Hirst : not killed, but silenced
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges they don't have to be killed, but silenced, that's not happening, unfortunately.
Although, if they were as evil and as powerful as you RWNJ claim, you'd all be rounded up and put in forced labour camps and/or killed. That's not happening, not even a little bit.
x198 Maxwell C. Bridges : why you invited me to join your "Curing Conspiratards" FB group
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot, Allow me to front-load into this comment that you keep evading my questions about why you invited me to join your "Curing Conspiratards" FB group and what sort of reception I'd get there?
And if I write a few more words at the beginning of this paragraph, FB will end up inserting a "See more..." collapsing break that your bot algorithms are incapable of clicking on, reading the expanded content, and furthering that below-the-fold discussion.
Why is that the case?
A consistency in your participation: (a) an inability to talk in specifics, (b) an inability to follow links, (c) an inability to defend with substantiation your own statements and positions, (d) an inability to string four or more sentences together in one comment, let alone multiple paragraphs, to make a reasoned and convincing argument...
Your partication is shallow and insincere.
Case in point, you have repeatedly stated "all conspiracies are crackpot", and that happens to be a long list of valid and invalid theories to wade through a prove each and every one is "crackpot." You've been brushing off my suggestion to limit the number of conspiracies to only those that I have championed -- a much smaller subset and admittedly more difficult to prove "crackpot", but hey!... I didn't make that bed; you did; so lie in it. ... But by golly, you can't be bothered to go to my FB wall and identify a single wrong theory owing to whatever error, because such are your chat-bot limitations.
No, your entire interaction with me has been so short, "See more..." collapsing affordances are almost never applied and when they do, only a few words got clipped. Sure, length of reply is only as important as the reasoning behind the words. In your case, you make over-generalized "crackpot" statements and ad hominem your staple. And you project mightily your own weaknesses onto others. Here's a gem: "your intellectual dishonesty is off the charts!"
If you were human, that would be right out of a disinformationalist handbook. But you're an artificial intelligent chat-bot, so most of your content seems to come from a small set of database entries that you string together with various references to your favorite expression: "gullible twit."
//
x200 Maxwell C. Bridges : how would you know a voice was being silenced?
2022-10-11
Dear Ms. Kylie Hirst, You should be more specific about which conspiracy theory and its champions are being referenced, because that changes victims of assassination and being silenced.
You wrote in a general sense: "[Whistleblowers] don't have to be killed, but silenced, that's not happening, unfortunately."
First of all, you are grossly mistaken about whistleblowers not being silenced. It happened in a major, global, lock-stepping way when it came to COVID. Dr. Mercola's book and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book both document this in great detail.
FTR, Julian Assange is still in jail, Edward Snowden is still on the run, and Chelsea Manning is in jail. They're being punished much more severely than those who committed the war and others crimes that they exposed.
Secondly, if you weren't tuned to listening for someone's voice, how would you know it was being silenced? As if you've never heard of FB Jail?
Thirdly, paraphrased you wrote: "silencing? that's not happening, unfortunately." Why "unfortunately"? Are you saying we'd be more fortunate if more voices were silenced? Are you advocating for more censorship? [If you're American, such shitting on the first amendment of the constitution outs YOU as the "domestic terrorist."]
You wrote: "you'd all be rounded up and put in forced labour camps and/or killed."
That may be your wish.
However, they discovered that if they release a flu-like virus, they could effectively put people in at home quarantine, which is like in-house arrest. We're all in debt and forced to work to pay our bills, most often at underpaid sucky jobs. And then we die. Like from complications of obsesity caused by sugar drinks, sugar candy, and other snacks designed to trigger compulsive craving habits.
At any rate, you are factual wrong about "censorship not even happening by a little bit." The internet used to have its mainstay through the infrastructure of publicly funded colleges and universities, which allowed UseNetNews to foster free speech. But then corporations started taken over and muscling out those message boards by providing the hosting for new forums. And with that, free-speech only to the extend of what corporate policy allows.
//
x202 Ax Eye Om : still waiting
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges still waiting ......
x204 Kylie Hirst : thanks for the entertainment this morning
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges lol, no, I'm just up getting ready for work, will respond when/if I have the time but thanks for the entertainment this morning.
x206 Maxwell C. Bridges : same agent with a bogus government agenda
2022-10-11
Ah, snap! Are the online personas of Ms. Kylie Hirst and Mr. Ax Eye Om managed by the same agent with a bogus government agenda? I mean, the thread is 3 hours quiet, and then in literally the same minute, Facebook informs me -- one after the other -- of a reactions from Ms. Hirst interspered with reactions and ultimately a database retread from Mr. Om bot.
That's called a sockpuppet-identifying failure.
Agents being thorough: "Now it is time to handle FB persona A, and append "hahaha" smiling faces to comments of targets. Then logout and login as persona B and respond with thumbs-up to my co-conspirator FB persona A's efforts before dropping a total and complete duece into the discussion: "still waiting...."
As if I didn't already suspect it, when Ms. Hirst offered the same line of "speaking in generalities" as Mr. Om. Tag teaming effort, but controlled by the same idiot agent.
Why aren't Ms. Hirst and Mr. Om engaging with each other other than back-slapping reactions and occassional "attaboy's"? Because they have nothing to say to each other; nothing to convince the other of; because they are the same.
Fail.
And gee, talk about "gullible twit", both personas are essentially advocating the government line: censorship and hypnotic suggestion.
Yeah, sure: does the invitation to join your agent online personas in your "Curing Conspiratards" FB group still stand?
//
x208 Ax Eye Om : still waiting
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges still waiting ......
x210 Maxwell C. Bridges : already reacted with his thumb's up
2022-10-11
Dear Ms. Hirst, Your posting isn't even a minute cold, and your alter-ego persona Mr. Om has already reacted with his thumb's up. ... And before I can complete this response not even three minutes from your comment, Mr. Om adds his deuce to the steaming pile: "still waiting".
Such coordination and tag teaming, that only an algorithm could make more efficient. Oh, my!
Mr. Om bot-san, I am "still waiting" to learn if the invitation to join your agent online personas in your "Curing Conspiratards" FB group still stands?
But I guess, if those questions remain below the "See more..." fold, your bot-algorithms will never click on it an know. It was placed once above the fold, and you still didn't answer. Because your bot algorithms can't handle it.
//
x212 Ax Eye Om : not for your (crackpot) conspiracy theories
2022-10-11
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges still waiting ....
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges why are there whblowers in the dangerous fields of the military and police but not for your (crackpot) conspiracy theories??? think carefully
x214 Maxwell C. Bridges : sockpuppets from the same persona management software
2022-10-11
Nailed it! Kylie Hirst and Ax Eye Om are sockpuppets from the same persona management software.
What about the invitation to join your "Curing Conspiratards" FB group. Does it still stand, particularly when it'll be easy to identify the bots and sockpuppets?
Loved the comments from me that you deleted from this thread. Rest assured, my version will have them.
//
x216 Maxwell C. Bridges : deleted my comments connecting sock-puppets with bots
2022-10-11
You deleted my comments connecting sock-puppets with bots. So, I deleted the rest of my comments in this thread (except the top-level comment) to highlight the crazy, and not interrupt the crazy with my attempts at rational discourse.
Pearls before swine, and all that.
//
2022-10-10
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3011059602525610/?comment_id=3017450508553186&reply_comment_id=3017522671879303¬if_id=1666057080865408¬if_t=group_comment&ref=notif
x218 Ax Eye Om : ATTENTION CONSPIRATARDS
2022-10-11
ATTENTION CONSPIRATARDS: DON'T MAKE CLAIMS YOU CANNOT SUPPORT!
x220 Maxwell C. Bridges : Wonderful gem of a posting
2022-10-17
Wonderful gem of a posting by someone who claims "all conspiracies are crackpot" and then can't even defend his assertion, making them hypnotic suggestions.
I try to narrow down the conspiracies to just the ones that I champion which, supposedly, are all crackpot. And the fool can't even utter a single one of my theories. How can it be crackpot without even knowing what it is? Only agents and bots do that sort of shit.
Who are the other sock-puppets that will come to your aide, bot-san? Let's find out.
//
x222 Ax Eye Om : fire away big fella
2022-10-11
fire away big fella
x224 Maxwell C. Bridges : Don't let that relationship unravel like a sockpuppet gone missing in the wash
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, Refer to my comment bellow to Ms. Belle Armstrong, also a fellow admin here in this FB group as you are, too. Don't let that relationship unravel like a sockpuppet gone missing in the wash. //
x226 Belle Armstrong : fact check everything?
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges you expect us to fact check everything?
x228 Maxwell C. Bridges : not just a requirement for "conspiratards"
2022-10-11
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, "Don't make claims you can't support" -- coming from the posting under which this discussion transpires -- is not just a requirement for "conspiratards", but also for those who wish to "cure conspiratards".
And I have found a case where an admin of this very group -- in a most hypocritical fashion -- was dropping all sorts of hypnotic suggestion everywhere -- "all conspiracy theories are crackpot" -- without even identifying (a) a single conspiracy theory or (b) what elements made it crackpot. Further, he went on to tweak me by saying "all of (my) conspiracy theories are crackpot", again without (a) or (b).
It isn't about me expecting you "conspiracy deniers" to fact check everything. It is about you deniers living up to the very rules of this forum, and certainly the boastful posting made by either (a) a sockpuppet or (b) persona management software or (c) agent-bot... with the gem posting under which we discuss this.
What is even more ironic. That lovable "gullible twit" -- an admin here, too -- made the above posting on October 10, and then just a few days later began to crank a bot-carousel that spectacularly and repeatedly made claims that he would/could not support, as if this posting here foreshadowed his near-term algorithmic actions.
Ms. Armstrong, if by "fact-checking" you me "supporting claims that you make", then yes; this is the expectation on you.
//
x230 Belle Armstrong : Ok love
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges Ok love.
x232 Maxwell C. Bridges : within a four minute window
2022-10-11
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, I love the coincidence that my comments to you and Ax-bot were 6 hours ago (from the time of your comment). Then, within a four minute window, first you emote-react to my comments and then make your eloquent speech -- "Ok love." But within 3 minutes of your last words, good old Ax-bot is suddenly active with a comment to me (on another thread). And it was also just a one-liner.
Damn it! Have I stumbled upon another sockpuppet associate of Ax-bot in the same way Kylie Hirst was outed?!!
//
x234 Kylie Hirst : yikes, someone's paranoid!
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges yikes, someone's paranoid! Would you like the name of a good psych?
x236 Maxwell C. Bridges : how were you so quickly notified
2022-10-11
{mcb: admin removed this}
Dear Ms. Kylie Hirst, How were you so quickly notified of my last comment on a Mr. Ax Eye Om posting, under my top-level comment, but further under a response from Ms. Belle Armstrong.
Either you're cyber-stalking me (within this FB group). Or.
Your persona management software is handling the notifications that might be aimed at any of the (three known) sockpuppets. The agent gets to choose who the response is from, but messed up. I mean, the language screams "Mr. Axe Eye Om", although the persona used should have been "Ms. Belle Armstrong" but with a differing tone. But to come out of the blue as "Ms. Kylie Hirst" into this discussion?
That is a bad agent fail and starts to impact the integrity of this holy group: CURING CONSPIRATARDS.
And just before I finish this message, the agent has to give a go of his persona "Mr. Ax Eye Om". Guess what he wrote: "you gullible twit".
//
x238 Ax Eye Om : you gullible twit
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges you gullible twit
x240 Maxwell C. Bridges : Someone is touchy! Doesn't like having all of his sockpuppets equated
2022-10-11
{mcb: admin deleted}
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, oooo-oh! Someone is touchy! Doesn't like having all of his sockpuppets equated, because their usage together in the same discussion is a deceitful act. Mostly because none of the sockpuppets would be portrayed in a convincing manner, could admit fault, could have their "minds" changed (say, based on superior references and arguments).
//
x242 Ax Eye Om : GULLIBILITY + PARANOIA = CONSPIRACY THEORIES
2022-10-11
2022-10-11
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/permalink/3009780539320183
Ax Eye Om
GULLIBILITY + PARANOIA = CONSPIRACY THEORIES
x244 Maxwell C. Bridges : ... = BOOT LICKER
2022-10-11
GULLIBILITY + PARANOIA = BOOT LICKER = BROWN NOSER = ASS KISSER = VESTED INTEREST IN THE STATUS QUO = SHEOPLE
Many theories happen, because events are researched and major plot holes in the official narrative uncovered.
The issue with theories has always been the insincere theorists, who purposely poison the well of understanding because they are paid and ordered to do so: "national security" is called out in cases. Hell, disinformation agents have been continually active on various fronts for events already 20 years ago (and longer). These get sold to the duped userful idiot, the gullible. But the gullible can be taught the truth and the error in the premise. The agents and bots? No such luck.
So this message isn't for you, Mr. Ax-bot, but for the latter-day lurker readers. And for your army of sockpuppets to engage me.
Over here, Ms. Kylie Hirst. Come defend Mr. Ax-bot's hand up your sockpuppet ass.
//
x246 Kylie Hirst : sounds like a bot, it's you
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges if anyone sounds like a bot, it's you. Repeating the same old nonsense over and over. I'm too busy at work to care to reply any further. Perhaps you should consider getting a job too
x248 Maxwell C. Bridges : an appearance on behalf of Mr. Ax-bot
2022-10-11
Dear Ms. Kylie Hirst, Thank you for making an appearance on behalf of Mr. Ax-bot. I'm still confused as to which of you has their hand up the ass of the other's sockpuppet. Doesn't matter, because your persona management software has the ability to handle all sorts of fake participants.
In another thread created by Ax-bot himself, he boast that participants should not make claims that they cannot support.
Above, Ms. Hirst, you are claiming that I have "repeated the same old nonsense over and over" (as if a database entry). Great, then it should be simple for you to copy any sentence of my comment, paste it with double quotes into a google search bar in another tab of your browser, and locate all the locations where I acted the bot "repeating the same old nonsense over and over." I admit that I am lazy as fuck, and am not beyond copy-and-pasting my words myself.
The gotcha here, sockpuppet-girl, is that this is the first time I've mocked Ax-bot with a parody of his "math" words -- the posting anchoring this discussion. So you're not going find anywhere else where my comment was repeated from.
Thus, this exception will disprove handily your statement about my alleged bot-repeatism, making you an overgeneralizing liar...
Which come to think of it, was also a trait exhibited by Ax-bot with his lame "all conspiracy theories are crackpot". Damn, I'm hit with the same surprise twice, now! I keep forgetting you two is one and the same.
Very unsportsman like to unleash two (or more) of your personas in the same discussion. And your efforts are so generic, so lame, ... it reeks of bot.
//
x250 Ax Eye Om : name a single conspiracy or stfu
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges name a single conspiracy ever proved right or stfu
x252 Maxwell C. Bridges : Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated by the FBI
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated by the FBI.
True conspiracy; FBI offered an apology. You lose.
And with that single, off-hand proof, your "all" statement gets debunked.
That's how it's done, son.
//
x254 Ax Eye Om : source for your claim
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges source for your claim
x256 Maxwell C. Bridges : onus is on you to prove conspiracy theory "crackpot"
2022-10-11
Nope, Mr. Ax Eye Om. That's not how reasoned discussion goes. Your request was to name a single conspiracy that was proven right. That challenge was met. And your one liner certainly didn't debunk it or prove it invalid.
Your request for sources wasn't part of the bargain. Normally, I would have complied. Except, you have a history of not being able to click on the "See more..." link to address what is below the fold, much less follow links to my source material and address their issues. (You probably didn't even read this entire paragraph.)
Nope, the ball is in your court. The onus is on you.
You made the claim "all conspiracy theories are crackpot." This is one theory named. The onus is on you to prove the MLK Jr. / FBI connection is crackpot.
Here, let me give you a starting point, because you can't do the google either.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=martin+luther+king+jr+FBI
//
x258 Ax Eye Om : a conspiracy theory prior to
2022-10-11
Maxwell Bridges firstly your claim is false. .. secondly no one was discussing it as a conspiracy theory prior to .... so try again dufus
x260 Maxwell C. Bridges : cheating
2022-10-11
Firstly, you can't label something false without proving it as such. That is cheating. (So is working in tandem with sockpuppets.)
Secondly, you made the bed about "all conspiracy theories being crackpot," were more than just a little coy in naming a single one, evaded even naming a single theory from my much smaller portfolio of conspiracy theories, and kept egging me to name one. So, au contraire. You were indeed discussing the assassination of MLK, Jr. when you made your "all conspiracy theories" claim. It remains valid and in play.
As requested, I named you a theory so that your work, your substantiation of your boastful claim, could be started [and there are many more valid theories that I'll bring up next.]
The onus is on you. Put up or shut up.
This is a test of your integrity, your sincerity, and intellect.
You're failing.
And this is before anyone mentions your silly sockpuppets in this forum by name. You seem to be a bit touchy on that subject and quick to delete comments to that effect under postings "Ax" controls.
Rest assured, one of my conspiracy theory claims is that FB (among most social media) is infiltrated rather thoroughly with agents and bots to control the narrative. And I'll point to your dishonest usage of sockpuppets in this "Curing Conspiratards" group [clearly a boot-licker's wet dream] as proof. Foreshadowing here.
//
x262 Maxwell C. Bridges : claim of a false conspiracy is dismissed
2022-10-11
{mcb admin removed}
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, in another thread, you quoted someone else so eloquently: "what can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Yep, your claim of a conspiracy being false is dismissed.
//
x264 Ax Eye Om : try again numpty
2022-10-11
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges nope, it is you claiming fbi killed king .. ... what can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence .... so try again numpty
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges you gullible twit - READ- https://www.politifact.com/.../fact-checking-old.../
PolitiFact - Fact-checking an old conspiracy about Martin Luther King Jr.'s death
POLITIFACT.COM
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges So many gullible morons around grrrr
x266 Maxwell C. Bridges : Thank you for debunking yourself
2022-10-11
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, you quoted someone else so eloquently: "what can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
EXACTLY. Thank you for debunking yourself before this bot-carousel got too far around another revolution.
You made the claim without evidence that "all chonspiracy theories are crackpot" and even posted this meme to the group for discussion. Yet when pressed on the matter, you provided no evidence. Hell, you couldn't even name a conspiracy theory, let alone you couldn't name a conspiracy theory that I champion.
You're DISMISSED, sockpuppet.
Your quote, right back at you: "so try again numpty".
Actually. Not really. Engagement with you is futile. Your unspecific, very generic, shallow, and cliche. Can't click on "See more..." links, can't follow links, and you engage in sockpuppetry.
//
x268 Maxwell C. Bridges : persona management software manning sockpuppets in discussions
2022-10-17
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3017361628562074/
What happens when you discover persona management software manning sockpuppets in discussions? I don't know. Keep your eyes open: for agents, bots, and sockpuppets of the same. //
2022-10-17
Belle Armstrong
What?
x272 Maxwell C. Bridges : coincidence A and B would be active in the exact same tiny window of time?
2022-10-17
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, seeing how you asked so nicely. Here's the short version.
Elsewhere in Facebook, participant A engages me in ("mindless") conversation, and I suspect he's a bot. He "friends" me. Makes one-liner, disparaging ad hominem across 4 postings on my wall. Doesn't defend his assertions and is an all-around-bot. But then on a different posting belonging to A, both B and I participate, but B only to a lesser extent. A and B are probably in different countries than me, but appear to be on the same schedule.
Be that as it may, I come back to a discussion I had left last night, make my reply to the new dribble from A. Three hours go by.
Wouldn't you know it, in a 3 minute span participant B adds reactions to new comments of mine, and then participant A does the same and comments. Bam, bam, bam. What a coincidence A and B would be active in the exact same tiny window of time?
Clearly a failure from an agent using a persona management program to handle multiple sock-puppets. Explains why A and B never really engaged with one another except in "reactions" and stupid back-slapping comments.
Oh, and the thing is, I'd been dinging participant A for his bot-ish ways. His bot algorithms even invited me to participate in this FB group!!! Get that, wow!
https://www.facebook.com/seven.seer.7/posts/pfbid02FEswvR2xiNuXUShJX72xKUJvGfQDsdRUbHcWs6GoXSYTdF2pd4v5MsToE8x8q4dGl
It was an agent fail, and then castes some shade to here.
//
x274 Maxwell C. Bridges : the hole-y glory of their bot efforts is so glaring.
2022-10-17
Oh. From that discussion I linked where I have the top-level comment in the thread? Bot participant A, aside from being obnoxious, started removing certain comments from me under that thread (because he owns the posting), particularly those comments that make the connection between him and his little sock-puppet friend (also a member of these hallowed halls).
Because I write off-line and save locally, when I get around to it, I republish under venues that I control. I have the conversation saved, even the deleted ones.
So what the hell? I deleted all of my exchanges in that thread of mine under A's posting. I'd remove the top-level one from me, except then the hole-y glory of their bot efforts wouldn't be so glaring.
//
x276 Ax Eye Om : you gullible twit
2022-10-17
Maxwell Bridges you gullible twit
x278 Belle Armstrong : Very well spotted
2022-10-17
Maxwell Bridges Very well spotted.
x280 Maxwell C. Bridges : spreading his love and charm "you gullible twit"
2022-10-17
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, it seems the agent-bot (participant A) has made his appearance here in these threads, spreading his love and charm with "you gullible twit", his favorite database expression.
Tell me, Ms. Armstrong. How well do the administrators of this FB group know one another? More to the point, do you think they are all real people? Or is it possible for an AI-bot to infiltrate your ranks?
//
x282 Belle Armstrong : most aren't bots
2022-10-17
Maxwell Bridges We know each other pretty well most aren't bots.
x284 Ax Eye Om : you paranoid psychotic twit
2022-10-17
Maxwell Bridges you paranoid psychotic twit
x286 Maxwell C. Bridges : punking you right to your face
2022-10-17
{mcb: admin deleted}
Oh dear, Ms. Belle Armstrong! Your fellow admin, Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, is punking you right to your face. He called me (repeatedly because it is in his database) a "paranoid psychotic twit."
That is a violation of the rules of conduct of this forum.
Isn't it very chummy of your two that coincidentally in the 6th hour after my last comment, you'd choose the same 3 minute window to drop your innane one-liners?!!
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x288 Maxwell C. Bridges : reached deep into a reply tree to delete a comment that I made
2022-10-17
Amazing! Which one of you admin's deleted my last comment in these threads? And the question assumes that the admin staff doesn't have any sockpuppets in it.
I mean, I can understand ~my~ comments getting deleted by me, or if I don't own the posting under which I reply, or don't own a parent comment in a discussion. [When owners of parent comments delete them, so disappears all replies.]
But someone reached under my posting and deep into a reply tree to delete a comment that I made.
Wow! What deceitful censorship!
Looks like my speculation into persona management software is hitting a nerve, and connecting sockpuppets in these hallowed halls of curers of conspiratards! For that has been the discussion in those several comments that have been selectively disappeared.
You invited me, and you were asked multiple times if your invitation still stood. Albeit, "below the fold" that your bot algorithms couldn't click into, let alone read, comprehend, and respond appropriately.
Punked on your own home court! How sad you agents and bots are.
//
x290 Maxwell C. Bridges : discussion about agents, bots, and sockpuppets
2022-10-17
Dear Mr. Stephen Dimitriou, Allow me to invite you over to this discussion about agents, bots, and sockpuppets of the same, "right here in River City" [phrase from "The Music Man"].
So if I front load this paragraph with lots of words to push out the character count, the effect will be that FB creates a "See more..." break somewhere early in this paragraph. That is bait that a bot won't click on, and after the break, I can say whatever I want.
This forum has lots of agents, bots, and sockpuppets of the same. And they've infiltrated the admin ranks of this group... Bwahahaha, who am I kidding?!! The bad apples were the creators from the get go. The hold positions of admin power. They like to delete comments.
I look at this FB group, and others, as sort of a required school project for students of disinformation and desirous of joining NSA's Q-group (to congnitively infiltrate online social media and promote established agendas).
//
x292 Maxwell C. Bridges : title
2022-10-20
https://www.facebook.com/maxwell.bridges.148/posts/pfbid02CguDxjvk8h6TCLeFtXQbsyPE1rmBkLHX7HZvPLHBiUkrPysvU5mGrQ6yqZvdPHvbl?
Yo! Ax Eye Om! [Posted to his FB wall and expecting it to immediately get torn down, so re-posting here.]
Please let us know the name of the Persona Management Software you use to handle all of your sockpuppets, particularly in your appropriately tarded named group "Curing Conspiratards"?
Here's something ironic. Your bot algorithms have been dropping the same (alleged) "lack of whistleblowers" canard for a spectrum of conspiracy that you can't even identify a single one but believe to be "crackpot" anyway.
And then right in front of your eye on your own home court, I guess that I become something of a whistleblower by identifying a real world conspiracy to engage the use of sockpuppets and bots to further your alleged "curing of conspiratards" agenda.
The thanks I get? Surgical removal of my comments mentioning sockpuppets (censorship) and then suspension (more censorship), quite possibly because such sockpuppetry in a dscussion is rather deceitful.
(A) The sockpuppets are by design fragments of your personality or purposeful mirrors thereof and have distinct limits on range of expression, else they align too closely with, say, the owner's position or another of his sockpuppets.
(B) Sockpuppets by design don't learn, don't evolve, and don't change their opinions, and will go to great lengths to avoid learning or understanding that which might undermine their agenda.
//
x294 Ax Eye Om : psychotic dribble
2022-10-20
psychotic dribble
x296 Belle Armstrong : obsessed with you
2022-10-20
Ax Eye Om he's obsessed with you.
x298 Maxwell C. Bridges : very wise of your persona
2022-10-20
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, That was very wise of your persona to wait 20 minutes before engaging with your sockpuppet relation, Mr. Ax Eye Om. Now it isn't so obvious. //
x300 Maxwell C. Bridges : not hearing any denials on your side
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, I'm not hearing any denials on your side that you aren't in someway a relation to other sockpuppet participants, nor from them either. Instead, I observed some heavy-handed admin actions, not just surgically deletion of individual comments, but of closing down comments temporarily to ~all~ postings... Without a care in the world that some innocent poster would mind.
They didn't mind because the posting was ultimately yours but under a different sockpuppet name.
For the record, this posting isn't in your conspiratards group, so isn't subject to your surgical censorship or hypocritcal admin actions.
//
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges yawn
++++++++++++
x304 Maxwell C. Bridges and Ax Eye Om: surgical censorship loses arguments
2022-10-19
Messenger
Dear Ax Eye Om, nothing says "I lost; I have no arguments; you are right" more mightily than surgical censorship of comments and outright suspension from your group! Is that how Conspiratards are going to be cured?
And nothing says: "I am weak and have no case" stronger than tag-teaming sockpuppets.
Ax_Eye_Om, Kylie_Hirst, Belle_Armstrong... are just the tip of the iceberg of personas in this forum who -- from their coincidental and prompt behavior -- have outed themselves as being sockpuppets.
Remember, you invited me to your group, maybe because you thought you could punk me on your home court. Nope. You got yourself PWNED pretty badly as well as the reputation of your whole group.
//
Ax Eye Om
they are not sock puppets you paranoid psychotic nutcase
now you have 12 hrs to cool off and when you return try answering my question about the lack of a single insider whblower
and GET A GRIP!
Wed 12:18 PM
Maxwell Bridges
Yes they are sockpuppets, and probably a few more, like Brian Ostermark. [If he wasn't one of your sockpuppets, then why did you INSULT a real person but shutting down comments to HIS posting? If he's real, he did nothing wrong, but you've turned him into a victim. Good job.
Your hypnotic denials have no effect on me.
If really they weren't sockpuppets, when I first brought it up -- Ax and Kylie --, each could have publicly stated they were no relation to one another [at completely different and random times of the day], and that would have been the end of the story.
But no. Kylie has given no response at all to the accusation. Of course, one could argue that Ax was too handy with the axe to surgically remove those comments, so maybe a real person Kylie never saw it.
Nope, censorship and temporay banishment are your only tools. Reason, substantiation, and articulation are not your strong suits.
After all of this, you still haven't (a) identified a conspiracy theory that I champion and (b) proven it to be "crackpot". It was you who made a bit posting out of "DON'T MAKE ANY CLAIMS THAT YOU CAN'T DEFEND", or words to that effect. Hypocrite. Bot. Agent.
//
x306 Ax Eye Om : moon landing ... go!
2022-10-20
try the moon landing ... go!
x308 Maxwell C. Bridges : Do you see me championing
2022-10-20
Do you see me championing (or denying) the moon landing on my blog ... go! //
x310 Ax Eye Om : keep asking you for one!
2022-10-20
that's why i keep asking you for one!
x312 Ax Eye Om : subscribe to zero consp theories?
2022-10-20
are you saying to subscribe to zero consp theories?
why so defensive and evasive?
x314 Maxwell C. Bridges : over and over like a bot
2022-10-20
Wed 12:40 PM
That is right: you keep asking me for a conspiracy theory, over and over like a bot, ignorant of the fact that my portfolio of conspiracy theories is readily available on my blog. But a tell of a bot -- which you are -- is that you can't follow links, nor can you google to find the blog that I've mentioned several times.
Sure, I've not had the opportunity to post the URL to my blog in the discussions we've been having in your agency-funded little FB group, because you repeatedly stated -- under no uncertain terms -- that "all of my conspiracy theories were crackpot", which gives rise to the impression that you've been to my blog to KNOW what my theories are and why they are crackpot. Thus, no link was provided and it gave me unusual pleasure watching you stew in the stupidity of your own, over-generalized proclamations and lies. [Lie: you don't know what conspiracy theories specifically that I champion, but you said you did and cranked lots of spins on your carousel.]
Geez, you could have gone to my facebook wall and eventually found me promoting something that was on my blog. But you're a bot. You don't do work. You don't think out of the box, out of the algorithm, out of the database entry. And if you ain't a bot, your an agent.
In any even, your participation is insincere. I mean, what was the nonsense of you -- twice now -- attempting to post bullshit directly on my FB wall?!! Get this little factoid. I work off-line, save my work, and then post onlne. Therefore, with just a little effort, I could make a posting suitable for your wall that is our unedited discussion. Won't that be sweet? [Don't hold your breath, though, because you really aren't worth the effort.]
Love your projecting your weaknesses onto me: "why so defensive and evasive?"
You're the one who censored my comments rather than address them; you're the one who banned me based on those comments.
//
x316 Ax Eye Om : you refuse to proffer a single one of your consp theories
2022-10-20
why do you refuse to proffer a single one of your consp theories?
you talk a lot but say very little
and i repeat: every single one of your consp theories are crackpot!
x318 Maxwell C. Bridges : "... casting pearls before swine."
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Ax-bot, you ask: "why do you refuse to proffer a single one of your consp theories?"
The answer comes from the Bible: "... casting pearls before swine."
In our entire history, you have been insincere, shallow, generic, unspecific, unsubstantiated. I am the opposite.
... Damn it, Ax. I was just about to give you keys to my kingdom, and then you go and make another dumb comment: "and i repeat: every single one of your consp theories are crackpot!"
As mentioned many times in recent history, this statement suggests that you are familiar with my conspiracy theories already, else you would not have been able to judge them as crackpot. Yet despite you bragging about such familiarity with my views, you still fail to mention a single one.
Thus, you "repeat" a lie, because your bot algorithms don't know no better.
... Oh, what the hell? ...
Enter the following without the double quotes into google: "maxwell bridges FGNW". {2023-11-01 mcb: Google shadow banning no longer has my blog in the search result; only "The Vatic Project" entry.}
You wanted a theory, well right there is my 9/11 hobby-horse. Let's see if your bot algorithms can even get you there and can get you to copy any given sentence written by me that you see there. Consider it a bot-test [that you'll fail.]
Before I forget, let me return briefly to your sockpuppet denials. Without consulting with Brian Ostermark, you (as admin) temporily shut down comments to HIS posting, and they remain off. If he was real, he'd be upset; you're turning him into an innocent victim, and you already exhibited other techniques of deleting any of my unwanted sockpuppet comments. So, whereas I only suspected before of his intimate relationship with "your right hand", those admin actions prove it. I mean, Brian was on your side and arguing things better than you ever did. Why did you screw him and his posting over?
You wrote: "you talk a lot but say very little".
You talk little and say even less, so shallow and insincere you are. A little time-sucking bot-instigator of flame wars.
//
x320 Ax Eye Om : single insider whblower?
2022-10-20
9/11 - where is a single insider whblower? ...yawn...
you must feel special with your secret knowledge insiders are too scared to speak up about.
x322 Maxwell C. Bridges : suspend me from the group and censor my wisdom
2022-10-19
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, Are you aware of the actions of a bot-ish administrator of this group? It seems his argument is so weak, he has to suspend me from the group and censor my wisdom. Is that how Conspiratards are going to be cured?
For shame, for shame!
Either condemn or defend the ongoing administrative actions aimed at me.
//
x324 Belle Armstrong : I shall address the issue
2022-10-20
If you could tell me who it is, I shall address the issue.
x326 Maxwell C. Bridges : identify the wayward admin of curing conspiratards
2022-10-20
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, so you are asking me to identify to you the wayward admin of curing conspiratards? I thought that was clear from the exchange you and I had under my posting. But if you insist on me spelling it out: Ax Eye Om, who by the way, I consider a bot that is probably handled by the same persona management software that handles other identified sockpuppets.
//
x328 Belle Armstrong : Ax isn't a bot
2022-10-20
Ax isn't a bot. He started the group love.
x330 Maxwell C. Bridges : One of the other sockpuppets in his stable
2022-10-20
You probably mean, the owner of the persona management software in-use was the Ax-sockpuppet to establish the group and mask his identifies. One of the other sockpuppets in his stable could be the real person or reflect the ideas of a real person. //
x332 Maxwell C. Bridges : the Ax-admin just suspended me for another 12 hours
2022-10-20
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, It seems that the Ax-admin just suspended me for another 12 hours.
+++
Group rules that were violated
1 No promotions or spam
Give more than you take in this group. Self-promotion, spam and irrelevant links aren't allowed. This includes posting thousands of memes in a 5 minute period.
+++
Fact: when he deletes comments, he destroys the evidence that might make his case for suspension or banishment.
As he so boldly stated: "Don't be making claims that you can't defend."
So, please have him identify & quote the suspending worthy offenses. [Hint: He doesn't like me calling out his sockpuppets that were easily identified from their coordinated actions.
If he fails to justify his actions, then you, as admin Ms. Armstrong, should re-instate me.
//
x334 Belle Armstrong : No love
2022-10-20
No love, I know Ax.
x336 Maxwell C. Bridges : hypocritical and bot-ish even as Ax
2022-10-20
If you know Ax, then you know he is being deceitful. He's hypocritical and bot-ish even as Ax, and has a stable of personas to manipulate the narrative of threads where he particpates. Lots of "attaboys" and backslapping between personas when used in the same discussion thread, trying to "astro-turf" (as opposed to "grass-roots") concensus that his bot arguments are valid.
//
x338 Belle Armstrong : who are the bots
2022-10-20
Ok so who are the bots ... name them.
x340 Maxwell C. Bridges : twice I rode a bot carousel over "no whistleblowers" and then notice that he crank yet other spins
2022-10-20
Ax Eye Om. Very generic. Unspecific. At least twice I rode a bot carousel over "no whistleblowers" and then notice that he crank yet other spins -- with the exact same database entries -- with other participants, both before and after me. He can't follow links. I'm doubtful that he can even click on a "see more..." link of longer comments.
//
x342 Belle Armstrong : another name in the group
2022-10-20
So you're saying he's got two Ax Eye Om accounts or does he have another name in the group?
x344 Maxwell C. Bridges : schlick so limited, he comes across like a bot
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges
No, I'm saying that he is so insincere and his schlick so limited, he comes across like a bot. And he has Kylie Hirst and others as sockpuppets.
Were it otherwise, the accused sockpuppets could publicly state "I don't have so-and-so hand's up my ass; we are no relation." I'd apologize for the mistake, and it'd be over.
Censoring sensible and factual comments is not a sign of innocence in this case.
//
x346 Belle Armstrong : maybe this isn't the group for you
2022-10-20
Have you ever thought that maybe this isn't the group for you?
Kylie Hirst isn't a bot.
x348 Maxwell C. Bridges : invited to your group by the Ax-bot himself
2022-10-20
I was invited to your group by the Ax-bot himself, and I asked him multiple times (admittedly mostly below the fold of a "see more..." content break, because he isn't capable of expanding) if the invitation still stood and what sort of reception would I get.
No answer, but the sockpuppet and censorship treatment over the clearly identified sockpuppets does speak volumes.
x350 Belle Armstrong : condone such tom-foolerly.
2022-10-20
Maybe this isn't the group for you that as an admin you condone such tom-foolerly.
x352 Belle Armstrong : control over what Ax does
2022-10-20
That photos from 2010.
I don't have any control over what Ax does.
x354 Maxwell C. Bridges : Lots of FB profiles with short tenures
2022-10-20
Could be anybody's photo. Lots of FB profiles with short tenures. The real kicker is the timing of certain responses with respect to Ax-bot. //
x356 Belle Armstrong : from 2010
2022-10-20
Kylie account is from 2010.
x358 Maxwell C. Bridges : Kylie is the puppet master and the weirdly named Ax Eye Om is the sockpuppet
2022-10-20
So quite possibly, Kylie is the puppet master and the weirdly named Ax Eye Om is the sockpuppet.
FTR, your dealing with an internet persona yourself, but I'm not a bot or an agent or a sockpuppet. I have two FB accounts. One for family and friends, and one for conspiracies and special interests that I know my family and friends don't give a shit about. I don't tag-team my accounts in a discussion like sockpuppets. They have completely different FB friends and news feeds.
//
x360 Belle Armstrong : just being a tad obsessive
2022-10-20
Don't you think your just being a tad obsessive? It's just Facebook. If you don't like the group please leave. I've got better things to do with my time than listened to a strangers unhinged rants.
x362 Maxwell C. Bridges : dishonest sockpuppet master as an admin who surgically deletes comments
2022-10-20
Don't you think that having proven dishonest sockpuppet master as an admin who surgically deletes comments that he doesn't like and imposes suspensions for no rules violations of the group is just "being a tad obsessive?"
x364 Belle Armstrong : stop harassing me
2022-10-20
Kindly stop harassing me please.
x366 Maxwell C. Bridges : take some admin responsibility for actions taken by others
2022-10-20
This isn't harassment. You're an admin on a group with a dubious name, so you take some responsibility for actions taken by others -- even fellow admins -- who have broken the rules and mis-used their authority. Your responsibility is to condone or condemn what he done, setting an appropriate tone for the group.
He's called me names. And how is manning several sockpuppets in the same forum, sometimes active under the same threads, above board and honest? Sure, you can have your doubts about who is the sockpuppet of whom, but the surgical deletion of comments that mention a connection, together with no efforts on either side to deny it, is practically an admission of guilt and a cover-up.
x368 Maxwell C. Bridges : manage (poorly) several different sockpuppets
2022-10-20
2022-10-20
You're a one-trick pony performing to imaginary whistleblowers who aren't even needed. You must feel special that you can manage (poorly) several different sockpuppets, but all with the same stilted rhetoric and favorite word: "twit". //
x370 Maxwell C. Bridges : title
2022-10-20
Oh, and it seems that surgical deletion of postings that expose your sockpuppetry isn't sufficient. Please explain how my participation ran afoul?
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Group rules that were violated
1No promotions or spam
Give more than you take in this group. Self-promotion, spam and irrelevant links aren't allowed. This includes posting thousands of memes in a 5 minute period.
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Fact: when you delete comments, you destroy the evidence that might make your case for suspension or banishment.
As you so boldly stated: "Don't be making claims that you can't defend."
So, quote me and identify the suspending worthy offenses.
//
x372 Ax Eye Om : point about whblowers and stop dribbling
2022-10-20
you need to address the point about whblowers and stop dribbling
x374 Maxwell C. Bridges : isn't a gating factor
2022-10-20
No, I do not need to address the point about whistleblowers. It isn't a gating factor. Conspiracies can still happen without any of the participants getting buyer's remorse and coming clean. Come clean to whom? And how? And what would it benefit them?
Your "lack of whistleblowers" argument is a lame one, and not even true strictly speaking. There were plenty of whistleblowers on compartmentalized things, and they were treated so badly on purpose as a lesson for anyone else coming forward.
//
x376 Ax Eye Om : deadman triggers and deathbed confessions
2022-10-20
yet they keep coming and always will .. especially in the age of the internet with deadman triggers and deathbed confessions ... it only takes one remember.
x378 Maxwell C. Bridges : discussion needs to happen, in a fair and civil manner
2022-10-20
Dear Ax-tard, If you want me to answer you questions, why in the fuck did you ban me from your group? That's where the discussion needs to happen, in a fair and civil manner. That means "one sockpuppet" from you active under a posting. That means no surgical deletion of my comments. Although you checked a box for some rule I allegedly broke, you and I both know that I didn't write any hate speech at you, and no actual rules were broken. Your feelings were simply hurt because your Ax-bot is lame and I legitimately outed a dubious usage of your sockpuppets, because you did it in a stupid manner and it is hard to manage.
You need me. Without me, you got no halfway decent conspiratard to attack. You group becomes blah, with lots of lame-ass sockpuppet backslapping and no real meaningful discussion.
//
x380 Ax Eye Om : stay on point
2022-10-20
if you can stay on point you are welcome back
x382 Maxwell C. Bridges : now, or no dice
2022-10-20
Make it happen now, or no dice.
x384 Ax Eye Om : false claim of sockpuppets again and finito
2022-10-20
done ... but mention your false claim of sockpuppets again and finito
x386 Maxwell C. Bridges : surgically censor admitting sockpuppetry is true
2022-10-20
If you have to surgically censor it, then you're practically admitting that it is true and not a false claim by any stretch of the imagination.
x388 Ax Eye Om : zero evidence
2022-10-20
you have zero evidence it is true ... provide evidence or withdraw your claim
x390 Maxwell C. Bridges : wasn't the crime, but the cover-up
2022-10-20
"It wasn't the crime, but the cover-up" that did you in. You and your sockpuppets could have simply individually denied the assertion -- preferably not within 3 minutes of each other. THAT was a dead giveaway. Also coming to each other's rescue with not just lacking "see more..." effort but in cases using the same vocabulary, you twit.
x392 Ax Eye Om : jump to conclusions
2022-10-20
you see how quickly you jump to conclusions??
x394 Maxwell C. Bridges : jumped to conclusions and surgically deleted comments
2022-10-20
Says the idiot how repeatedly jumped to conclusions and surgically deleted comments without even signally that that had been done, or why. Makes you guilty as sin.
x396 Ax Eye Om : where atre all those insider whblowers?
2022-10-20
just stay on point ok .. now where atre all those insider whblowers?
x398 Maxwell C. Bridges : boasted about all conspiracy theories being crackpot without naming a single one
2022-10-20
Asswipe. The point isn't whistleblowers. The point is you boasted about all conspiracy theories being crackpot without naming a single one or identifying what made it crackpot.
Iran-Contra
Prove that it is crackpot. The same for "CIA started the LA crack epidemic". And "the CIA is the biggest drug runner on the planet and one of many reasons Afghanistan was targeted and managed like it was."
Go. The ball is in your court, and make your answers public.
x400 Ax Eye Om : cia ran drugs to catch the kingpins you numpty
2022-10-20
all conspiracy theories are crackpot and false .. prove me wrong
cia ran drugs to catch the kingpins you numpty
x402 Belle Armstrong : gave him a seven day suspension
2022-10-20
Mary Smart I just gave him a seven day suspension.
x404 David Lloyd Hole Snr : ban him, then he will know what a bot is
2022-10-20
I was going to say just ban him, then he will know what a bot is.
x406 Belle Armstrong : suspension is more fun
2022-10-20
David Lloyd Hole Snr I suspended him, it's more fun.
x408 KC Scudder : going to come back crying that you're the bot
2022-10-20
Belle Armstrong you know he's going to come back crying that you're the bot. Then he'll try demanding feet pics or something to prove you're real. It's weird how he can see the name of the group and just not get it.
x410 Belle Armstrong : I want to see him come crying back
2022-10-20
KC Scudder that's why I suspended him because I want to see him come crying back. Lol
x412 Maxwell C. Bridges : the master behind the sockpuppets reveals herself!
2022-10-20
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, Great posting about me {now removed or unaccessible to me). The screen shots from your smart phone are a particularly nice touch. In the comments, you write: "I just gave him a seven day suspension" (which is funny, because Ax should have been the admin to do it and in the know. Then you go on to write: "that's why I suspended him because I want to see him come crying back. Lol"
And indeed, I did come "cryng back." But not to you, because I didn't suspect you of doing it; I suspected Ax. Here's that crying exchange.
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[Maxwell Bridges] Dear Ax-tard, If you want me to answer you questions, why in the fuck did you ban me from your group? That's where the discussion needs to happen, in a fair and civil manner. That means "one sockpuppet" from you active under a posting. That means no surgical deletion of my comments. Although you checked a box for some rule I allegedly broke, you and I both know that I didn't write any hate speech at you, and no actual rules were broken. Your feelings were simply hurt because your Ax-bot is lame and I legitimately outed a dubious usage of your sockpuppets, because you did it in a stupid manner and it is hard to manage.
You need me. Without me, you got no halfway decent conspiratard to attack. You group becomes blah, with lots of lame-ass sockpuppet backslapping and no real meaningful discussion. //
[Ax Eye Om] if you can stay on point you are welcome back
[Maxwell Bridges] Make it happen now, or no dice.
[Ax Eye Om] done ... but mention your false claim of sockpuppets again and finito
[Maxwell Bridges] If you have to surgically censor it, then you're practically admitting that it is true and not a false claim by any stretch of the imagination.
[Ax Eye Om] you have zero evidence it is true ... provide evidence or withdraw your claim
[Maxwell Bridges] "It wasn't the crime, but the cover-up" that did you in. You and your sockpuppets could have simply individually denied the assertion -- preferably not within 3 minutes of each other. THAT was a dead giveaway. Also coming to each other's rescue with not just lacking "see more..." effort but in cases using the same vocabulary, you twit.
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Damn, girrrrrl!
So, the master behind the sockpuppets reveals herself! Oh, aren't you the crafty one! Timing tripped up Kylie Hirst and Ax Eye Om, and it had also tripped you up too with Ax Eye Om, although I didn't make a big deal of it at the time. But this posting here that you've created is golden.
So scenario 1 is that Ax are Belle are ~not~ sockpuppets of the same person. In which case, the story is that one admin (Belle) stepped from behind the scenes to defend another admin (Ax) by banning an invited participant, only to have those actions countermanded a few hours later by the Ax himself. Now they have bad blood between one another, because Ax just totally undermined the authority of Belle..
In scenario 2, Ax and Belle are sockpuppets of the same person as speculated, which makes coordination of deleting comments, bogus banning, and then re-instatement not only much easier, but with no hurt feelings between the two.
P.S. This comment not made to the curing conspiratards group, so speculation into sockpuppetry between players is not a violation of any promises -- made or implied -- to Ax.
//
x414 Belle Armstrong : Ok honey.
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges Ok honey.
x416 Maxwell C. Bridges : The sincerity of every "curer" in your group is seriously called into question
2022-10-20
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, such a quick reply, you didn't even read it. The sincerity of every "curer" in your group is seriously called into question. //
x418 Maxwell C. Bridges : Ms. Belle Armstrong, formerly an admin here, has JUST LEFT THE BUILDING!
2022-10-21
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3020237134941190/?comment_id=3020258118272425¬if_id=1666357901363800¬if_t=group_comment&ref=notif
Oh no!!! It seems that Ms. Belle Armstrong, formerly an admin here, has JUST LEFT THE BUILDING! She had departed from this group without even saying "goodbye, fucktards!" And she FB unfriended me, too. I'm so sad. She had paid me homage on her FB wall by bragging about her recent admin activities here, that included suspending little 'ole me for 7 days until October 27.
Amazing that Ax went behind her back are removed that suspension before the first day was even over. Look at this posting as evidence.
Must've of caused some really bad blood between the two admins, so Ax gave her the axe in a real brutal fashion.
//
x420 Sam Baxter : She's still Admin
2022-10-21
She's still Admin
x422 Maxwell C. Bridges : Bruce Wayne is going to want to be doing that under a "batman"
2022-10-21
Dear Mr. Sam Baxter, if Ms. Belle Armstrong is still Admin as you say -- and I don't necessarily disagree --, then she would have to act under a sockpuppet alias, such as "Jenny", "Cat", "Jordan", or even -- dare I say it -- "Ax". El-oh-el.
And that's been kinda the issue. While it is important to protect your personal information on line particularly if you are going to play in "fucktard" FB groups, Bruce Wayne is going to want to be doing that under a "batman" alias, no question.
Check out my profile picture. If that ain't a cute "batman" to my "bruce" that you don't need to know about! I'm consistent in my usage, earnest in my efforts, take responsibility for my words to the point of re-purposing them to my website (since 2004). Which is why I endeavor to take the high road in my interactions so that the words will be worthy in and out of a "fucktard" context.
Be that as it may, my "bruce" isn't even FB friends with my "batman". The instance would be most rare indeed when "bruce" appears in a FB skirmish against "batman". Whether or not "bruce" and "batman" debated the same side of the issue, their tag teaming in the same discussion is deceitful, very integrity damaging if discovered, and most difficult to maintain believably. [Again, an issue present in this instance.]
So, although I am a newbie in this forum of conspiratards versus curer-tards, my short contribution to the scoring added positive points to the conspiratards while subtracting points (and going negative) for the curer-tards.
The sockpuppets were so wound up, they were surgically deleting my comments, took down my postings, suspended me for 12 hours, then tried to suspend me for over 7 days, and -- as this comment demonstrates -- didn't even finish out the day it was issued before getting overturned.
[Why? Because I'm a kick-ass conspiratard, and they need me if they want this group to be any more than one sockpuppet me-too'ing another. Boring. Conflict is what peeks interest.]
In other words, nothing says "you hit a nerve with your expressed truth" than the immediate censorship attempted. So that's adding to the conspiratards score.
What subtracts from the curer-tards score mightily is: the sudden departure of an admin! Tho' we all know that she still hangs out here in spirit under her own "batman" alias while I rub her nose in it.
See? Not only has my participation made this "batcave" a better place, it has served to improve "bruce" herself, and her puppet mastery of her "batmen" in her Persona Management Software.
Remember. "Batman" can never reach the limits of what he can "be" or express truly of himself in a forum, if his "bruce" is there, too. One or both would be compartmentalized and stilted to avoid the appearance of being clones of one another. And such mental and expressed firewalls in the personas makes them insincere, less authentic, deceitful. "You don't don the mask to protect yourself, but to protect those you care about."
Fare thee well, Belle-Bruce, sockpuppet master!
//
2022-10-21
Huh?
x426 Wayne Boyd : toddle along cooker
2022-10-21
She's still here now toddle along cooker
x428 Maxwell C. Bridges : the puppet master has some distance from her sockpuppets
2022-10-21
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, I agree that Belle is still here acting even still as an admin, but now the puppet master has some distance from her sockpuppets. //
x430 Wayne Boyd : who's keeping you at bay mr sock puppet
2022-10-21
Maxwell Bridges so who's keeping you at bay mr sock puppet ?
x432 Wayne Boyd : do you expect everyone to believe you are actually Walter white
2022-10-21
Maxwell Bridges or do you expect everyone to believe you are actually Walter white ?
x434 Maxwell C. Bridges : Batman talking to future-Robin
2022-10-21
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, allow me to quote an Alaskan librarian.
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Writing under a pseudonym or pen name on political topics has a long and distinguished history going back to the Federalist Papers when Founders Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison wrote under the pen name of Publius in the late 1700s.
I believe that from a speech standpoint a pseudonym provides accountability. A person writes under her pen name and if called on misuse of facts or making stuff up can't hide behind the "I didn't say that" that anonymous blog commenters can.
So I don't think using a pen name is itself bad for public discourse. ... Outing people is a form of Ad hominem attack to me. You don't care about their facts or sources, you are arguing the writing shouldn't be trusted because of the person hiding behind the pseudonyms.
In a few specialized cases, this could be legitimate. For example, it would be worthwhile to know that a blog purporting to be from an American Jihadi was in fact written by Dick Cheney to try and scare us. Or if a blog purporting to be that of a homeless man trying to get by on the streets of New York was actually being written by George Soros. But unless the outing is to show the writer isn't in a position to know what he's writing about, it's not useful or conducive to public debate.
~ alaskanlibrarian
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From the Batman movie, Batman talking to future-Robin: "You don't don the mask to protect yourself, but to protect those you love."
//
x436 Wayne Boyd : worried if someone els is using a sock
2022-10-21
Maxwell Bridges so why are you worried if someone els is using a sock ?
x438 Maxwell C. Bridges : sockpuppets are established with limitations
2022-10-21
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Deceitful tag-teaming practices not just in the same Group, not just under the same posting, but together in individual threads is the issue. Attempts to astro-turf a concensus and manipulate the discussion narrative.
Worse, in the effort to make each sockpuppet "different", real, and consistent (e.g., in language, ideas, aspirations), sockpuppets are established with limitations. In other words, they can never evolve or change their minds, and most just end up being lacky "yes" men.
The more important question is: "If you aren't already using an alias as you comment in fucktard groups, why not? Haven't you ever heard of 'safe-internet' practices?"
//
x440 Maxwell C. Bridges : I am a lone conspiratard and heavily outnumbered
2022-10-21
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Or to answer your question -- "why are you worried if someone els is using a sock?" -- in a different manner. I am a lone conspiratard entering into a heavily biased FB group where from the onset, I'm outnumbered by the curer-tards, both real and sockpuppet. I need to reduce the number of fronts (e.g., postings, threads, online entities) where I expend my effort.
Given that I am earnest and sincere (and a legacy to back that claim), I don't want to be debating insincere participants and sockpuppets who play games. But it happens, I know. So when several of the curer-tards are revealed to be the same retard, it can totally discredit them and their positions while eliminating further required engagement effort on my part. "FOUL!" I get the win, and they take heavy loses to their credibility and integrity... at their own hand.
//
2022-10-21
Chris Cross
Lol !!!
Chris Cross
Riddance to her !!!
Chris Cross
Good !!!
x444 Maxwell C. Bridges : might get the "Ax" real soon
2022-10-21
Dear Mr. Chris Cross, Thank you for your kind words. I recommend that you hurry and check out my reply to Mr. Sam Baxter quickly. I suspect that either that comment or this whole damn posting might get the "Ax" real soon, if you know what I mean. Good thing I write off-line before posting, so I have a copy. //
x446 Joanna Smith : WHAT CONSPIRACY WOKE YOU UP
2022-10-22
Image from "They Live": "WE WER ALL NAIVE AT ONE TIME. WHAT CONSPIRACY WOKE YOU UP."
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3021220514842852/?comment_id=3021463104818593¬if_id=1666492123757170¬if_t=group_comment_mention
x448 Ax Eye Om : not a single conspiracy theory has ever been proven right
2022-10-23
not a single conspiracy theory has ever been proven right .. good luck trying to find one! lol. ... Maxwell Bridges try to find one! lol .. you damn gullible clowns!
{mcb: 2022-10-27 The discussion below was deleted, leaving only the above comment in that thread.}
x450 Maxwell C. Bridges : 12 Conspiracy Theories That Actually Turned Out to Be True
2022-10-23
https://www.rd.com/list/conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/
12 Conspiracy Theories That Actually Turned Out to Be True
RD.COM
x452 Maxwell C. Bridges : these conspiracy theories and why they are crackpot
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges
Ax Eye Om https://www.buzzworthy.com/15-conspiracies-that-turned-out-to-be-true/
15 Conspiracies That Turned Out to Be True
BUZZWORTHY.COM
Maxwell Bridges
Ax Eye Om https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bldBqtgAX2o
Top 10 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out to Be True
YOUTUBE.COM
Maxwell Bridges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MewtsLsxoDY
Top 10 Government Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True
YOUTUBE.COM
Maxwell Bridges
Ax Eye Om https://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/12-crazy-conspiracy-theories-actually-turned-out-be-true
12 crazy conspiracy theories that actually turned out to be true
READERSDIGEST.COM.AU
Maxwell Bridges
Ax Eye Om https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/conspiracy-theories/
Conspiracy Theories that Turned Out to be True
CRIMINALJUSTICEDEGREEHUB.COM
+++ Under each one above, later +++
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, your analysis is requested for the above conspiracy theories and why they are crackpot.
Reply here in this thread to just those theories at the above URL.
Take your time. And don't be cranking other distracting carousels until you've addressed these here: one-by-one.
Thank you in advance for your debunking efforts so that I might see the light and be better informed through your research, wisdom, and analysis.
//
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x454 Maxwell C. Bridges : if there is overlap in the above conspiracy theories, then you only have 15 conspiracy theories to debunk
2022-10-23
Ax Eye Om You made the boastful claim that "ALL conspiracy theories were crackpot." Assuming no overlap in the above theories, there's probably 60 theories above that you need to prove as total crackpot, as in not true and not even an ounce of truth.
However if there is overlap in the above conspiracy theories, then you only have 15 conspiracy theories to debunk.
Hop to it! Chop, chop. You made that bed, now lie in it.
//
x456 Ax Eye Om : talked about as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to revelation
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges all you need to do is prove one of them was actually talked about as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to revelation AND show that it was an actual conspiracy with identified conspirators. ..... hop to it!
x458 Maxwell C. Bridges : busy work that you will then promptly ignore
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, Your request: "all you need to do is prove one of them was actually talked about as a conspiracy theory". Rather sophomoric -- if not bot-ish -- in its logic and its intent on assigning busy work that you will then promptly ignore.
Conspirators don't talk about themselves in those terms. No, they are strategic partners. And the theories are actually given in mission statements. As one example, the Project for a New American Century and their "Rebuilding America's Defenses" (that if you look real hard on the internet, you can still find a PDF of. I have a copy.)
https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/25398/Ferdigxmasteroppgave.pdf
At any rate, what would be the significance of this? "talked about as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to revelation"?
Further, you don't have to identify the conspirators to know more than one person conspired together for an illegal or illicit purpose that happened, which pretty much meets the base definition for "conspiracy theory."
//
x460 Ax Eye Om : to prove that a CONSPIRACY THEORY actually became true!
2022-10-23
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges "At any rate, what would be the significance of this? "talked about as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to revelation"?" ------------- to prove that a CONSPIRACY THEORY actually became true! .. not one ever has. .. not a single one.
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges this is not about which conspiracies were discovered but which CONSPIRACY THEORY came true! ... got it now?
x462 Maxwell C. Bridges : trying to establish a criteria that has nothing to do with whether not conspiracies happened.
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, Your bot algorithms makes no sense. You're trying to establish a criteria that has nothing to do with whether not conspiracies happened.
(Assume this fact) Conspirators got together as "strategic business partners" to execute items on their business plan. Later after the events happened, the conspiracy theorists speculated that those who benefited from the action and were instrumental in carrying out the action planned in advance to carry out those actions.
According to your logic, because the conspirators were not themselves equating their business plans with "conspiracy" adjectives, it cannot be later viewed as a valid conspiracy theory.
Regarding 9/11, "Rebuilding America's Defenses" by that popular band called PNAC, the Project for a New American Century, runs counter to your hypnotic and illogical statements.
//
{mcb: at 3:23 2022-10-23 "Your account is restricted right now. You're temporarily restricted from doing things like posting or commenting in groups, creating new groups until Wednesday at 3:23 PM" (2022-10-26). Seems to be applied to the tard group. However, }
+++ direct message
Sat 9:41 PM
learning yet?
Sun 3:43 PM
x464 Maxwell C. Bridges : Nothing says "your truth hit a nerve" quite like the censorship you've exhibited in your tard group
2022-10-23
Yes. Nothing says "I'm losing the debate, I can't defend my own positions, I have no argument" better than censoring your opponent. And it appears to have been an automated bot programmed into the Fauci-censorship regime. I mean, one posting with meme's didn't even make it live, so quick were the algorithms. The second posting without the meme's, and/or the discussion that was happening triggered it.
Or may be just as likely, you yourself Ax Eye Om were the bot-culprit.
Nothing says "your truth hit a nerve" quite like the censorship you've exhibited in your tard group. //
Sun 4:04 PM
Maxwell Bridges
So which one of you tard-admins posted as me in your tard-group with an anti COVID vaccine article, that then got flagged by your COVID-bot-algorithms and suspended my activities? Pretty clever. Nothing says agency quite like dirty tactics. //
Sun 6:04 PM
x466 Ax Eye Om : you are now unblocked
2022-10-23
Ax Eye Om
i simply allowed your post
Sun 6:44 PM
Ax Eye Om
50 Day FB Ban?
30
you are now unblocked
x468 Maxwell C. Bridges : trigger for automatic admin-bots
2022-10-23
8:43 AM
Maxwell Bridges
Thank you for the efforts, but the blocking admin was a FB algorithm, and a message about something I posting going against community standards, although that might be a reference to FB community. May you could check on something. Allegedly, I posted a link to an article with the title "Delta variant hysteria exposes the sobering truth: Covid vaccines don't work." [Only you and the group admins can see this post.]
I DID NOT POST THAT. The destination URL is not something I've saved; the destination website is not something I visit with any frequency. I did find the link, though:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-06-29-delta-variant-hysteria-exposes-truth-covid-vaccines-dont-work.html
The point is two-fold. 1) That URL / subject might well indeed be a trigger for automatic admin-bots to do their thing and reprimand the poster, in my cases exactly 3 days suspension from the time of posting, but only in the Conspiratards group. Means the group from the get-go was established with agendas (on Covid) with automatic mechanisms. 2) I DID NOT POST THAT URL. Given the technical prowess of the admins in their ability to surgically remove comments, given that at least two participants who engaged me in conversation (e.g., Belle, Wayne) had two FB personas registered, I speculate that someone spoofed me by posting the triggering URL just to put me in time out.
The question is: who spoofed me?
//
{mcb: Found out I was not a member. When I rejoined at Ax Eye Om's invitation, this appeared.
Your group activity is restricted
Your previous group activity didn't follow our Community Standards so you can't do things like create, invite, post and comment in groups.
Oct 23, 2022
Your post didn't follow our Community Standards
Feb 10, 2022
Your comment didn't follow our Community Standards on harassment and bullying
Feb 10, 2022
Your comment didn't follow our Community Standards on harassment and bullying
Nov 3, 2021
Your comment didn't follow our Community Standards on hate speech
{mcb: in other words, the lying actions of others stacked up.}
Up above, Mr. Chris Cox wrote: "(Fauci is) SO credible that he insisted on the use of the PCR test when the very inventor of it said it was not reliable."
Mr. Wayne Boyd is a big fan of assigning busy work to others and then promptly ignoring it. Thank you Mr. Chris Cox for providing him the research hints. But yes indeed, the inventor of the PCR test has stated multiple times that the PCR test was not reliable (for what they were intending it). It can't separate live virus from dead.
On a different topic, Mr. Wayne Boyd must have recently unfriended me. I mean, in order to climb over from the "Curing Conspiratards" group, see my wall, and post a comment it on it, he had to be a FB friend at the time (and was, as I recall). But now he is not.
Far more interesting, that "Curing Conspiratards" group has rules set up from the get gone that are FB poster-child for censorship and control, enforced in cases by bots. In one instance, I was going to post some memes on the vaccine theme, and the bot intercepted and banned it without it ever going live.
Later, I speculate that someone spoof me. [Belle and Wayne are two examples of participants who had more than one FB profile in the group; I went through an interesting series of exposing sockpuppets and bots; Ax Eye Om might be a bot.]
In the group, the URL was somehow a trigger, and it lead to a 3 day suspension automatically ON THAT GROUP.
This is on my wall but buried in comments. Let's see what happens with the censorship...
It didn't like it. Not even sure this posting will go up without the link
//
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-06-29-delta-variant-hysteria-exposes-truth-covid-vaccines-dont-work.html
Part 9: Curer-tards and 9/11
x470 Joanna Smith : What Conspiracy Woke You Up
2022-10-26
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3021220514842852/?comment_id=3022121764752727&reply_comment_id=3024593857838851¬if_id=1666560241169234¬if_t=group_comment_mention
What Conspiracy Woke You Up
x472 Maxwell C. Bridges : pulverization through the paths of greatest resistance at near gravitational acceleration
2022-10-26
The observed pulverization through the paths of greatest resistance at near gravitational acceleration while ejecting content laterally of the two WTC towers, only to have the official reports from the NIST/FEMA crews: (a) focus only on the initiation of collapse from the jet impacts and fire from jet fuel & office furnishings, (b) ignore the imbalance in the energy equation in a lame "pancake" and then "pile driver" analysis that SCREAMS "energy had to have been added from other sources."
//
x474 Christopher Edwards : Debunking the 9/11 Myths: The World Trade Center
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
Have you read this?
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/?fbclid=IwAR0D103N_NVC_k18ZfKos07qhPkoAkfbyNqtZFWzwC7bU-5GOwji9zx1_uQ
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: The World Trade Center
POPULARMECHANICS.COM
x476 Maxwell C. Bridges : the curer-tards had me suspended from this group for exactly 72 hours
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Apologies for this tardy response. FB and the curer-tards had me suspended from this group for exactly 72 hours.
Indeed I have studied the Popular Mechanics article and recommend it to every open-minded and rational thinking person, because it could be considered Exhibit A for media working with government to spread absolute disinformation and bullshit.
Dr. David Griffin's book addressed that article's many issues in his 2007 book, "Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to 'Popular Mechanics' and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory." His chapter four is titled "Debunking 9/11 Myths: A Failed Attempt by 'Popular Mechanics'".
After the article came out in March 2005, it was thoroughly debunked by the 9/11 Truth Movement. Dr. Griffin wrote: "I myself called it a 'spectacularly bad article,' adding that 'Popular Mechanics owes its readers an apology for pulbishing such massively flawed article on such an important subject.' However, rar from apologizing, Popular Mechanics in 2006 published a somewhat revised and expanded version of this essay as a book, entitled 'Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts'. And this book, apart from correcting few of the flaws in the article, is no better. Its errors are especially important because, besides the fact that this book is easily the most widely read ..." (paraphrased) and was treated by the BBC as a primary authority about 9/11.
I don't want to be a spoiler, but the next 100 pages tears PM a new asshole, point by point, as any truly sincere debunker would do.
Conclusion: Griffin's work was done in 2007. Here it is 2022 and you're still promoting PM's disinformation not knowing how bad it really was?!!
For shame, for shame.
https://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X?fbclid=IwAR1noWMjf-JLdMcbY59_paC4Il89JvVjl_Eh0UPEj0SlUkAzV4riwJ36eCs
Here's the Amazon review:
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By virtue of his previous four books on the subject, David Ray Griffin is widely recognized as one of the leading spokespersons of the 9/11 truth movement, which rejects the official conspiracy theory about 9/11. Although this movement was long ignored by the US government and the mainstream media, recent polls have shown that (as Time magazine has acknowledged) the rejection of the official theory has become "a mainstream political phenomenon." It is not surprising, therefore, that the government and the corporately controlled media have shifted tactics. No longer ignoring the 9/11 truth movement, they have released a flurry of stories and reports aimed at debunking it. In the present book, David Ray Griffin shows that these attempts can themselves be easily debunked. Besides demonstrating the pitiful failure of Debunking 9/11 Myths (published by Popular Mechanics and endorsed by Senator John McCain), Griffin riddles recent reports and stories put out by the US Department of State, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the New York Times, Vanity Fair, and Time magazine. He also responds to criticisms of these efforts by left-leaning and Christian publications"”which one might have expected to be supportive. Throughout these critiques, Griffin shows that the charge that is regularly leveled against critics of the official theory"”that they employ irrational and unscientific methods to defend conclusions based on faith"”actually applies more fully to those who defend the official theory. This book, by debunking the most prevalent attempts to refute the evidence cited by the 9/11 truth movement, shows that this movement's central claim"”that 9/11 was an inside job"”remains the only explanation that fits the facts.
+++ end quote
//
Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and the Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory
AMAZON.COM
x478 Christopher Edwards : How can your book debunk the popular mechanic's article
2022-10-26
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
How can your book debunk the popular mechanic's article, if the article was written in 2022 and you say the book was written in 2007? 🤔
May be an image of text that says 'x www.popularmechanics.c.. POPULAR MECHANICS SUBSCRIBE HOME SIGN IN NEW TECH SCIENCE MI Gear-obsessed editors choose every product we review. We may earn commission you buy from a link. .U? Military 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Debunking the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Special Report -The World Trade Center Popular Mechanics examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11. POP MECH BY POPULAR MECHANICS EDITORS PUBLISHED: SEP 2022'
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
Dude. 🙄🤣🤣🤣
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Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
You'll be saying that the Nazis were socialists and the earth is flat next??! 🤣🤣🤣
x480 Maxwell C. Bridges : My error in not knowing that there was a 2022 version of the article
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, My error in not knowing that there was a 2022 version of the article. Point 1: it is only available to Pop Mech members.
Point 2: it is undoubtedly based on its original 2005 version, and its 2006 book, whose many errors were pointed out in Griffin's 2007 book.
Seeing how I can't read the new version, how significantly does it deviate from its predecessors? Did they fix their errors?
//
x482 Christopher Edwards : No it isn't
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
No it isn't, it's always been freely available and not behind a paywall.
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x484 Christopher Edwards : stopped looking at new 9/11 data since reading this book in 2007?
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
Is it possible that you have stopped looking at new 9/11 data since reading this book in 2007? 🤔
x486 Maxwell C. Bridges : a bit of unfounded speculation
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, You wrote: "You'll be saying that the Nazis were socialists and the earth is flat next??!"
No, I'll not be writing that. What is noteworthy is that you can and did write that about me in a bit of unfounded speculation. Please visit my blog and tell me whether those are things in my conspiracy portfolio. When you come up short, render your apology.
//
x488 Christopher Edwards : What. A. Surprise. 🙄🤣😉
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
So you have a preconceived opinion on data that if 15 years fresher than your old data??!
What. A. Surprise. 🙄🤣😉
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x490 Maxwell C. Bridges : title
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, not to pat myself on the back too hardily, but not only has my 9/11 study progressed, it has gone further towards the truth than: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Woodsian DEWers, and 9/11 Nukers combined!!!
I'll let you do a google on me to find my research. Use my name followed by the initials "FGNW" in your search query.
//
{2023-11-01 mcb: Google using my name followed by FGNW no longer brings up my blog, but one of my articles published to The Vatic Project.}
x492 Christopher Edwards : Chemtrails? 😉
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
So which other conspiracy theories do you believe?
Chemtrails? 😉
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x494 Christopher Edwards : your own picture in your profile?
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
If you research is so up to date, why not share several examples of 9/11 data from this decade? 🤔
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
If your blog had anything sensible to say, why don't you use your own picture in your profile? 🤔
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
Also, do you think the character Heisenberg would agree with you on 9/11? 😉
x496 Maxwell C. Bridges : "National Socialists" or "chemtrails": make a top-level comment and their own dedicated threads
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Please stop being deceitful and a weasel. If you really want to talk about "National Socialists" or "chemtrails", make a top-level comment so they can have their own dedicated threads.
Right now, you're trying to distract and "guilt by association" mud-sling a valid top-level posting about 9/11. Early versions of your PM article and book were thoroughly debunked; your new version isn't reachable to the general public. You brought it up. If you want to defend it, then quote from it and go to town. (The quotes are important otherwise nobody will know what you are talking about.)
You'll get extra rasberries from me if the new article re-cycles debunked points from earlier instances of their disinformation, and if errors aren't corrected.
//
x498 Christopher Edwards : do you have any 9/11 data from this decade or not?
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
So do you have any 9/11 data from this decade or not? 😉
x500 Maxwell C. Bridges : the PM's article from 2022 did not address my work from 2018
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, because you haven't shown that "this decade's" version of PM article has any improvements over its predecessors, whether or not I have a blog posting from the 2020's (as opposed to last decade at 2018) isn't really relevant.
[*sobbing* And please get off my case that my years-long procrastination has so delayed my Opus as well as a new version of my website, since the old one just got imploded by my decades-long service provider. Crippling procrastination. Blame it on Facebook! *sniff* *wiping away tear*]
With certainty, the PM's article from 2022 did not address my work from 2018, so even with a newer date, it is still wrong.
Regarding my Heisenberg image, glad you noticed. Wouldn't want anyone to think that my Batman pseudonym (since 2004) was my tax-paying Bruce Wayne. Here's why.
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Writing under a pseudonym or pen name on political topics has a long and distinguished history going back to the Federalist Papers when Founders Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison wrote under the pen name of Publius in the late 1700s.
I believe that from a speech standpoint a pseudonym provides accountability. A person writes under her pen name and if called on misuse of facts or making stuff up can't hide behind the "I didn't say that" that anonymous blog commenters can.
So I don't think using a pen name is itself bad for public discourse. ... Outing people is a form of Ad hominem attack to me. You don't care about their facts or sources, you are arguing the writing shouldn't be trusted because of the person hiding behind the pseudonyms.
In a few specialized cases, this could be legitimate. For example, it would be worthwhile to know that a blog purporting to be from an American Jihadi was in fact written by Dick Cheney to try and scare us. Or if a blog purporting to be that of a homeless man trying to get by on the streets of New York was actually being written by George Soros. But unless the outing is to show the writer isn't in a position to know what he's writing about, it's not useful or conducive to public debate.
~ alaskanlibrarian
//
x502 Maxwell C. Bridges : it is up to you to paste its information in here
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, You wrote: "No it isn't, it's always been freely available and not behind a paywall."
Wrong. When I follow your link to the 2022 PM article on "Debunking the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Special Report - The World Trade Center , the article's content is purposely blurred and unreadable. it wants me to do digital only for $4 a month, or all access for $40 a year. The very definition of a paywall and not being freely available.
So, if that new article has anything relevant, it is up to you to paste its information in here. (Or are you not a member?)
Meanwhile. When you paste multiple comments in a row in a short period of time, that is considered spamming if the content could have been consolidated into one posting with some clever SHIFT+ENTER usages during composition (or simply writing off-line).
Agents like to use that tactic, because it forces earlier and maybe even more meaningful comments into a "See more comments..." region to get them out of the way. An example in itself why FB does not want discussion. (If they did, they'd add more tools to make it easier to view all comments, respond to comments, link to comments, and to keep sequencing correct instead of algorithms mucking with order of comments (and hiding things.)
//
x504 Maxwell C. Bridges : literally outgunned "9 to 1", because I'm using all my fingers at a keyboard (except 1 thumb) and you're using only one finger on your phone
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Sorry for so many postings in a row. Would have edited a previous comment, but was afraid with them being almost 10 minutes ago and probably already read, you'd miss this point.
The screen images from your phone means that in this debate you are literally outgunned "9 to 1", because I'm using all my fingers at a keyboard (except 1 thumb) and you're using only one finger on your phone. I can have multiple tabs open, research things, quote things. On the phone, not so much.
Just saying.
//
x506 Christopher Edwards : maybe others will have the same problem you're having? 😉
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
It's not behind a paywall but I've shared the link into the group and maybe others will have the same problem you're having? 😉
x508 Maxwell C. Bridges : Did you actually scroll into the article and can you read it beyond the title and publication date?
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, either you subscribed to PM and didn't know it, or maybe special rules apply when using a phone. Did you actually scroll into the article and can you read it beyond the title and publication date?
Your screen capture may not have scrolled far enough.
Also, I'll be signing off for the night. Other plans for the evening.
//
{mcb: 2022-10-27 It appears that the discussion above has been deleted. Parallel to the 9/11 discussion used to be the... }
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3021220514842852/?comment_id=3021463104818593&reply_comment_id=3024786141152956¬if_id=1666557269384393¬if_t=group_comment_mention
x510 Christopher Edwards : Does anyone have a problem with this Popular Mechanics link?
2022-10-26
2022-10-26
Christopher Edwards -> Curing Conspiratards
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3024611187837118/?comment_id=3024616861169884&reply_comment_id=3024617321169838¬if_id=1666827193169145¬if_t=group_comment_mention
Does anyone have a problem with this link?
Maxwell Bridges seems to have a problem and says it opens to a paywall"¦
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/?
x512 Stella Marie Ivory : Fine"¦
2022-10-26
Fine"¦
x514 Wayne Boyd : working fine for me
2022-10-26
It's working fine for me and no paywall
x516 Maxwell C. Bridges : Maxwell Bridges is having some problems"¦ 😃ðŸ‘ðŸ¾
2022-10-26
Christopher Edwards
Wayne Boyd
Thanks, Maxwell Bridges is having some problems"¦ 😃ðŸ‘ðŸ¾
x518 Wayne Boyd : More baked than a scone
2022-10-26
Christopher Edwards he is a problem
More baked than a scone
x520 Christopher Edwards : done for the night"¦ 🤣
2022-10-26
Wayne Boyd
Probably just a Coincidence, but he's just said he's done for the night"¦ 🤣
x522 Roger Beaumont : No paywalll...
2022-10-26
No paywalll...
x524 Maxwell C. Bridges : object to the gross violence that just occurred to your worthy postings and right under your very noses
2022-10-26
Dear Ms. Joanna Smith and Mr. Christopher Edwards, you have been cheated! A curer-tard admin has removed entire discussions right from within the threads of YOUR postings. Worse, your very reasoned words (Mr. Christopher Edwards) and attempts to rationally defend a premise went missing, as did mine.
Under Ms. Smith's posting, I lost [1} a thread with Mr. Ax Eye Om where he challenged himself to debunk many conspiracy theories that turned out to be true; and [2] the thread with Mr. Edwards about the Popular Mechanics article!!!
From under Mr. Edwards posting on the PM article, I lost [3] late evening replies to Mr. Wayne Boyd and Mr. Edwards!!!
If you are not objecting to the gross violence that just occurred to your worthy postings and right under your very noses, and among other coincidences, then you are complicit probably as deeply as I've been suspecting with other curer-tard personas.
//
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x526 Wayne Boyd : have a cry conspiratard
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges have a cry conspiratard
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x528 Maxwell C. Bridges : should be complaining more about the disappearance of comments
2022-10-26
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, thank you again for making a posting out of the Popular Mechanics article. I repeat (what was deleted) that the PM link takes me to the article with everything below publication date blurred, and a permanent footer:
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This story is just for Pop Mech members. Join Pop Mech Pro for unlimited website access, plut get: Annual print subscription, Weekly members-only newsletter, Access to scientists, engineers, and other experts. And more! JOIN NOW (or sign in).
+++ end quote
FYI, All Access to PM is $40/Year, and Digital Only is $4/month
Fair use for the purposes of education and discussion, copyrighted material can reproduced. Therefore, you should copy all the paragraphs from the PM article each into their own top-level comment under this posting, thereby allowing discussion and defense /debunking of the article, paragraph-by-paragraph!
What a wonderful service we all would be doing for the world if we were to identify the nuggets of truth (and nuggets of shit) in that article, to get us all to the same understanding!!!
[1, 5, 9, ...] Christopher Edwards
[2, 6, 10, ...] Wayne Boyd
[3, 7, 11, ...] Roger Beaumont
[4, 8, 12, ...] Stella Marie Ivory
Seeing how there are four of you Curer-tards who can get to the article no problem, that will make it easy to divide up the work, each of you copying and pasting a paragraph and then leap-frogging four paragraphs to get the next one. Real quick, you'll have the PM's article's fair-use context displayed here, so that this Conspiratard can go to work.
Mr. Christopher Edwards, you should be complaining more about the disappearance of comments and even whole discussion threads.
How can you expect the PM article to get a fair defense if this group has some over-arching admin-bot (e.g., major, colonel) who retro-actively resets discussions?!!
//
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x530 Wayne Boyd : I can read it
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges I can read it
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x532 Ax Eye Om : I'M STILL WAITING DUDE
2022-10-26
Maxwell Bridges I'M STILL WAITING DUDE
x534 Christopher Edwards : popular mechanics article
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
This post is still up and everyone, but you, can read the popular mechanics article.
x536 Maxwell C. Bridges : start copying paragraphs from the article and pasting into top-levels comments
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, that is great news! For the purposes of education and analysis, I suggest that everybody who can read the article start copying paragraphs from the article and pasting into top-levels comments under this posting! Meets the requirements of copyright fair-use, because each paragraph will be a thread for intellectual discussion and rational analysis.
I look forward to reading it!
//
x538 Christopher Edwards : conspiracist commenters were more likely to argue against the opposing interpretation
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
"In accordance with our hypotheses, we found that conspiracist commenters were more likely to argue against the opposing interpretation and less likely to argue in favor of their own interpretation, while the opposite was true of conventionalist commenters. However, conspiracist comments were more likely to explicitly put forward an account than conventionalist comments were. In addition, conspiracists were more likely to express mistrust and made more positive and fewer negative references to other conspiracy theories. The data also indicate that conspiracists were largely unwilling to apply the "conspiracy theory" label to their own beliefs and objected when others did so, lending support to the long-held suggestion that conspiracy belief carries a social stigma. Finally, conventionalist arguments tended to have a more hostile tone. These tendencies in persuasive communication can be understood as a reflection of an underlying conspiracist worldview in which the details of individual conspiracy theories are less important than a generalized rejection of official explanations."
Maybe you should give this a read? 😉
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2013.00409/full
"What about building 7?" A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories
FRONTIERSIN.ORG
x540 Maxwell C. Bridges : was expecting the introduction paragraph to the PM that anchors this posting!
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, WTF was that? I was expecting the introduction paragraph to the PM that anchors this posting! Is that too much to ask? Or is that article weak, so you have to divert the discussion with some psychological study?
You are making the claim that PM article is of some truth and significance. Defend it.
//
x542 Christopher Edwards : other sources that debunk all the 9/11 conspiracy theories
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
You do know that there are other sources that debunk all the 9/11 conspiracy theories, don't you, champ? 🙄🤣😉
Here's seven for you, as you don't seem to be able to use Google"¦ 😉
https://www.cfr.org/blog/seven-resources-debunking-911-conspiracy-theories
Seven Resources Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
CFR.ORG
x544 Christopher Edwards : biggest 9/11 conspiracy theories debunked
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
In fact, here's another one for you to read, champ"¦ 😉
https://www.history.co.uk/article/the-biggest-911-conspiracy-theories-debunked
The biggest 9/11 conspiracy theories debunked
HISTORY.CO.UK
x546 Christopher Edwards : what's your "smoking gun"
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
By the way, what's your "smoking gun" that categorically proves that the official version is a lie? 🤔😉
x548 Maxwell C. Bridges : supposed to be about the PM article
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, your pre-mature ejaculation belongs under a posting of their own right. The discussion here was supposed to be about the PM article that everyone except I can get to. So, please start fair-use copying in paragraphs from that "official conspiracy theory" (OCT) so that we can have a go at it.
If you make posting out of those other articles, maybe I'll provide some conversation.
//
x550 Christopher Edwards : disprove the official version of 9/11, champ
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
Unlike you, I have provided other sources for you to read, as you can't read the popular mechanics article"¦ 🙄
So again, what's your "smoking gun" that disproves the official version of 9/11, champ? 😉
x552 Maxwell C. Bridges : fair-use copying of the content from that seminal piece of disinformation
2022-10-29
Unlike you, Christopher Edwards, when I make a statement or provide a source, I can defend them. You can't even copy into a thread of your posting the introductory paragraph of Popular Mechanics article that anchors this thread. Curious that none of the other participants here who claimed to be able to get the article without problem (or paying) can post a paragraph from that seminal piece of disinformation. Why is that?
Why is it that you seem to be the only participant (other than me) who can write more than two paragraphs that might trigger a "see more..." content break? But even then, only a couple of your words get clipped.
I even provided keys to a deviant "conspiratard" theory that even most of the 9/11 truth movement don't support. In fact, the agent infiltrators of the truth movement won't touch it to debunk it or vet it.
I am earnest, sincere, and truthful. You are none of those things. Can't even play fair under your own posting. Did you complain to the "authorities" about the words of yours that "they" disappeared?
As an OCD person who was presented first with the PM article -- because it doesn't just anchor this posting but the thoughts of all agents, infiltrators, sockpuppets, and government trolls --, that's what should be discussed first.
Until you have promoted those other two "worthy" articles to posting in their own right, they aren't worthy and are just distractions.
Chop, chop, with the filling (at top-level comments) of the threads under your glorious posting with fair-use copying of the content from that seminal piece of disinformation. Else all latter-day lurker-readers of this forum will be able to easily conclude that you -- and all of the "others" -- were lying and you can't really get to the article, a lie that will torpedo your integrity, reputation, and even your realness to separate you from, say, Belle's sockpuppets.
Come on Pinochio! Time to turn yourself into a real boy! Pony up.
//
x554 Christopher Edwards : Dude. 🙄🤣🤣🤣
2022-10-29
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
Dude. 🙄🤣🤣🤣
Again, what's the "smoking gun" that proves that 911 truthers, like yourself, are correct, champ? 😉
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Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
This is from last year and outside the paywall, champ"¦ 😉
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5654/debunking-911-myths-planes/
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: The Airplanes
POPULARMECHANICS.COM
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
Rationalwiki have done quite a thorough debunking of all 9/11 truthers questions, so maybe you should give this a read, champ? 😉
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9/11
9/11
RATIONALWIKI.ORG
Christopher Edwards
Maxwell Bridges
By the way, gave you ever heard the phrase "Sealioning", champ"¦
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sealioning&defid=10500196
x556 Maxwell C. Bridges : not "sealioning" is requesting the intro paragraph from PM article anchoring this thread
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Requesting the introductory paragraph to the Popular Mechanics article that anchors this posting is not "sealioning". Maybe IF you had pasted in the x-number of paragraphs in that introduction AND if it had not spawned rational discussion from me, THEN sealioning is one conclusion for my non-action. But that wouldn't have been the case -- which is what you FEAR.
Won't Mr. Ax-bot be proud that I learned a new word to describe his very actions on the front: "all conspiracy theories are crackpot". At his sealion request to name just one true conspiracy theory, I provided a link to over three dozen conspiracy theories that are true. He not only didn't address a single one of them in sealion fashion, but he then removed the evidence that I had even commented in the exchange.
FOR THE RECORD, your second link to Popular Mechanics is also behind the paywall. Seems like maybe you have a subscription. Given this new found powers of yours to literally read through PM's paywall, what is stopping you from fair-use copying its content under your posting for the purposes of education, analysis, and discussion?
Don't think you have to do it alone, Mr. Edwards. Mr. WAyne Boyd (Mr. Wayne Boyd), Mr. Roger Beaumont, Ms. Stella Marie Ivory, and Mr. Garry Browne have all testified in their various one-liner contributions that they could get to the PM article AND read what it was saying. Maybe if you are down-under, PM has different promotions for their paywall. Whatever. Surely at least one of these Belle-tards could prove it is not a bot with a quoted passage for the purposes of furthering the discussion productively?!!
For shame, for shame.
Oh, BTW. Using a smart phone and one finger when a full keyboard for 10 fingers and many browser tabs are warranted? Puts you at an immediate disadvantage.
+++ quote from "Seven Resources..." that you linked
Even as the smoke was still rising from the ruins of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in September 2001, conspiracy theories sprang up blaming the attacks on anyone but al-Qaeda.
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That ^^^ right there is disinformation exposed. How was it, "even as the smoke was still rising from the ruins of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in September 2001", that al-Qaeda was the ONLY ONE the media and government blamed? Rather myopic in a very disinfo sense, don't you thing? Afghanistan was even saying, "show us the proof of Osama bin Laden's involvement, and we'll welcome you to come and get him; until then, stay out."
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3024611187837118/?comment_id=3026490227649214&reply_comment_id=3027850807513156¬if_id=1667091810615710¬if_t=group_comment_mention
x558 Marcie Jo Lentz : when you are ready🤣
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
Point #1"¦feel free to take your time, I will post point two from the article when you are ready🤣
CLAIM: The first hijacked plane crashed through the 94th to the 98th floors of the World Trade Center's 110-story North Tower; the second jet slammed into the 78th to the 84th floors of the 110-story South Tower. The impact and ensuing fires disrupted elevator service in both buildings. Plus, the lobbies of both buildings were visibly damaged before the towers collapsed. "There is NO WAY the impact of the jet caused such widespread damage 80 stories below," claims a posting on the San Diego Independent Media Center website (sandiego.indymedia.org). "It is OBVIOUS and irrefutable that OTHER EXPLOSIVES (... such as concussion bombs) HAD ALREADY BEEN DETONATED in the lower levels of tower one at the same time as the plane crash."
FACT: Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)"”a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce"”released another report in spring 2005. NIST shared its initial findings with Popular Mechanics at the time, and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters.
The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel"”and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."
Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film.
SANDIEGO.INDYMEDIA.ORG
San Diego Independent Media Center | questioning authority and facilitating communication in solidarity with communities since 2001
x560 Maxwell C. Bridges : Thank you so much for your assistance
2022-10-29
Goodness Gracious, my dear Ms. Marcie Jo Lentz! You are indeed a lifesafer! Don't know why those bots had such difficulty doing a simple copy-and-paste for content on the other side of a paywall for me. Oh, that's right.
I do have a comment to make [which will make your copy-and-paste legal under fair-use laws], but this is not the right location.
Would you please make that exact same posting at the top-level (right under the posting), so that there will be more room & levels for reply comments.
Also, maybe identify (for clarity) where the quotation is coming from, some demarkation line =======, then the quote.
Foreshadowing my reply: I have issues with burning jet fuel traveling down elevator shafts. Other plausible explanations exist. That one is rather lame. More detail later when there is room to discuss.
Thank you so much for your assistance.
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x562 Maxwell C. Bridges : four of you Curer-tards who can get to the article no problem
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, thank you again for making a posting out of the Popular Mechanics article. I repeat (what was deleted) that the PM link takes me to the article with everything below publication date blurred, and a permanent footer:
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This story is just for Pop Mech members. Join Pop Mech Pro for unlimited website access, plut get: Annual print subscription, Weekly members-only newsletter, Access to scientists, engineers, and other experts. And more! JOIN NOW (or sign in).
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FYI, All Access to PM is $40/Year, and Digital Only is $4/month
Fair use for the purposes of education and discussion, copyrighted material can reproduced. Therefore, you should copy all the paragraphs from the PM article each into their own top-level comment under this posting, thereby allowing discussion and defense /debunking of the article, paragraph-by-paragraph!
What a wonderful service we all would be doing for the world if we were to identify the nuggets of truth (and nuggets of shit) in that article, to get us all to the same understanding!!!
[1, 5, 9, ...] Christopher Edwards
[2, 6, 10, ...] Wayne Boyd
[3, 7, 11, ...] Roger Beaumont
[4, 8, 12, ...] Stella Marie Ivory
Seeing how there are four of you Curer-tards who can get to the article no problem, that will make it easy to divide up the work, each of you copying and pasting a paragraph and then leap-frogging four paragraphs to get the next one. Real quick, you'll have the PM's article's fair-use context displayed here, so that this Conspiratard can go to work.
Mr. Christopher Edwards, you should be complaining more about the disappearance of comments and even whole discussion threads.
How can you expect the PM article to get a fair defense if this group has some over-arching admin-bot (e.g., major, colonel) who retro-actively resets discussions?!!
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x564 Wayne Boyd : I can read it
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges I can read it
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/?multi_permalinks=3024611187837118&comment_id=3027615474203356¬if_id=1667155583479939¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
x566 Maxwell C. Bridges : You're holding out! You won't even paste me a taste of the PM's wisdom, and goodness, and science, and facts.
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, if you can read it, you can copy it, you can paste it, you can productively further the conversation in this thread.
But NOOoooooo! You're holding out! You won't even paste me a taste of the PM's wisdom, and goodness, and science, and facts, and don't look here behind this curtain!
You can't paste it in here either because your bot-algorithms ain't that capable, or because your commanding officer won't let you. Either way, makes you less than genuine.
But the PM article is supposed to be genuine! Please, drop me a taste, won't you! Don't torment me in ignorance of the true 9/11 truth and gospel that PM preaches! Don't leave me in hell! Save me, oh mighty curer-tard, and is the very creed of this group that bound your allegience!
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x568 Christopher Edwards : Sealioning again"¦ 🙄🤣🤣🤣
2022-10-29
Wayne Boyd
He's Sealioning again"¦ 🙄🤣🤣🤣
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges it's there so you can read it to
x572 Maxwell C. Bridges : hit with a paywall
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Yes the article is there, but when I scroll below the copyright date to read it, I'm hit with a paywall; everything is blurred and footer encouraging me to pay $4 / month for a digital subscription.
If you can READ it, then you can COPY it and PASTE it into comments so that this conspiratard can have a read.
Do be a good chap and prove you ain't a bot.
Otherwise, your integrity gets dinged.
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x574 Wayne Boyd : not behind a pay wall
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges it's not behind a pay wall so read away
x576 Maxwell C. Bridges : Prove me wrong. COPY A PARAGRAPH FROM THE PM ARTICLE INTO THE COMMENTS.
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, From my perspective and experience, the PM website is all behind a paywall. Prove me wrong. COPY A PARAGRAPH FROM THE PM ARTICLE INTO THE COMMENTS.
Then we'll know several things: (1) You weren't lying, (2) you aren't a bot, (3) the info from the paragraph that you paste in, and (4) that possibly you have a subscription, which is why you get in.
Easy assignment. Don't screw the pooch by evading the simple task.
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x578 Wayne Boyd : I can read it fine
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges I can read it fine
x580 Maxwell C. Bridges : Bot-fail... too lame to get me literally onto the same page
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Bot-fail... Unless you make it so -- fair-use allowed and legal and all -- that I can read it too. Copy-and-paste!
Otherwise, there is literally no discussion, because you are too lame to get me literally onto the same page, so that we're discussing the exact same paragraphs from the source text. Within your easy grasp... If you were real. If you were sincere.
My super powers have always been that I'm naive and trusting, unless given reason not to be. I had faith that you could do this easy task, I had hopes that you would drop some red 9/11 meat to bring me into a rational discussion, only to have those wet-dreams crashed by your bot-behavior: "I'm too special to copy-and-paste content that will further the discussion."
Sad, so sad.
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x582 Wayne Boyd : go read it cooker
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges go read it cooker
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, In a fashion similar to your Belle-tard Mr. Roger Beaumont, use your smart phone to go to the first section beyond the introduction, take a picture, and post here. Otherwise, you are doing nothing to further the discussion in a positive and productive manner.
Here's what it looks like to me when I scroll into the article.
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x584 Garry Browne : Perhaps it is you that has the problem?
2022-10-29
Garry Browne
Maxwell Bridges I see and can read it with no issues. Perhaps it is you that has the problem?
x586 Maxwell C. Bridges : If I can't get at the PM content and you can, please give me a taste!!!
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Garry Browne, indeed I may have many problems. You are the solution to one of them. If I can't get at the PM content and you can, please give me a taste!!! Copy the introduction under the posting as a top-level comment, so I can be teased mercilessly for the content I normally can't get to! Oh, please torment with with pasted in words from that bible of OCT and disinfo tropes! Make its very copy-and-pasted words into these forum discussions have me writher in confusion and disbelief. Over power me with its brilliance, its science, its facts, its conclusions! Abuse me with the wisdom of its very existence! But please, don't withhold its words from gracing these Belle-tard discussions! I beg you! Please! Go fetch! //
x588 Kaye Brownie : 'do your own research!'
2022-10-29
Maxwell Bridges In the words of the helpless within your cohort 'do your own research!'
x590 Maxwell C. Bridges : not out to prove several participants here liars; I'm out to analyze the content of the article
2022-10-29
Dear Ms. Kaye Brownie, In the paraphrased words of Mr. Ax Eye Om, an admin here: "Don't be making claims that you can't or won't defend." Claim number 1 is that the PM article is readable to the world-wide web and doesn't sit behind a paywall (if you don't already have a subscription or if geography determines whether content is free or for a price.) I'm not out to prove several participants here liars; I'm out to analyze the content of the article which would piece-meal, paragraph-by-paragraph get copied and pasted in a copyright fair-use fashion anyway, if ~I~ could read the content there. Seems like a dirty trick to say "it is readable" if it is not, and then if you are unwilling/unable to prove its readability by simply pasting it in here. (Only one Curer-Belle-tard has managed it so far. It becomes rather silly watching the bots trip over this small hurdle.)
Claim number 2 is that the PM article is the God's Honest Truth, complete and without omissions, and has no issues whatsoever. That might be paraphrasing it a little, but that's what the OCT-tards ("official conspiracy theory" retards) want us to believe, even though they don't believe it themselves. It is just an agenda they must defend, even if poorly and with perjury.
We seem to have a lot of unsportsmanlike conduct in this forum.
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x592 Maxwell C. Bridges : justified in calling the whole herd of you "Belle-tards" >>LIARS<< and >>WEASELS<<
2022-10-29
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Mr. WAyne Boyd (Wayne Boyd), Mr. Roger Beaumont, Ms. Stella Marie Ivory, and Mr. Garry Browne!
All of you testify that you can reach the Popular Mechanics 9/11 Article and READ it, and that it isn't blurred with a footer asking you to become a Pop Mech Member for $4 / day for digital only access.
Until any one of you copies and pastes into this forum the PM article's introduction, I will be justified in calling the whole herd of you "Belle-tards" >>LIARS<< and >>WEASELS<<, which your non-action solidifies & substantiates for all latter-day lurker readers to see. It isn't defamation when it is true.
Come on, give me a taste!
Don't screw the pooch on such a simple "wanna-be-sealion" request! If I don't respond to your fair-use re-purposing of the PM's paragraphs, THEN and only then I become the sealion. My intention is to respond, and my legacy gives weight to that tendency.
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x594 Maxwell C. Bridges : such a divine comment -- fair-use copied from the source
2022-10-
My dearest, and sweetest, and most earnest Ms. Marcie Jo Lentz! You made such a divine comment -- fair-use copied from the source -- that I felt it needed to be promoted to a top-level comment in order to give it thread-space underneath to be discussed.
Herewith I not only quote what you quoted, but apply first-level analysis about the quotes.
Disclaimer: The following quotations are assumed to have come from the Popular Mechanics article. If they are not from the article, or if they are wrongly quoted before coming across my desktop, one of the Belle-tards who testifies to making it passed the Popular Mechanics paywall ("Duh, an agency subscription is a perk I forgot I had.") and being able to read the content: those are charged with vetting the words.
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CLAIM: The first hijacked plane crashed through the 94th to the 98th floors of the World Trade Center's 110-story North Tower; the second jet slammed into the 78th to the 84th floors of the 110-story South Tower. The impact and ensuing fires disrupted elevator service in both buildings. Plus, the lobbies of both buildings were visibly damaged before the towers collapsed. "There is NO WAY the impact of the jet caused such widespread damage 80 stories below," claims a posting on the San Diego Independent Media Center website (sandiego dot indymedia dotorg). "It is OBVIOUS and irrefutable that OTHER EXPLOSIVES (... such as concussion bombs) HAD ALREADY BEEN DETONATED in the lower levels of tower one at the same time as the plane crash."
FACT: Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)"”a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce"”released another report in spring 2005. NIST shared its initial findings with Popular Mechanics at the time, and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters.
The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel"”and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."
Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film.
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part 2/2
OCT means, "official conspiracy theory", and various agencies FEMA, NIST, and Popular Mechanics promote OCT in the narrative that they conjure up in their description.
What a wonderful picture of unspent jet fuel (whether or not on fire) dropping down Pez-Dispenser-tyle the "throat" of an exposed elevator shaft that the impacts conveniently cut. Don't you love the contradictions?
[1] "sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, [and created] a conduit for burning jet fuel"”and fiery destruction throughout the building." [PM spin.]
[2] "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert.
[3] "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off." Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert.
I give the OCT authors kudos for their imagination and fairy tales.
Yes, the WTC had express elevators that went all the way from the bottom to the top, but it also had express elevators to certain staging floors (e.g., 33rd, 66th) where local elevators serviced the individual floors in between staging floors.
If we assume unspent, unignited jet fuel went down the conduit of an elevator shaft TO THE GROUND FLOOR [where injuries appeared and damage was observed], then damage and explosions could have happened and been observed in lots of areas along the thousands of feet of elevators shaft.
The assumption is wrong, and a valient effort at coming up with a lame explanation for the explosion, burned injured victims, and lobby damage. Here is why the assumption doesn't hold.
The jet fuel was largely consumed by the fireball immediately after impact and in the first ten minutes of burning fire, according to the NIST experts. Once the wall assemblies sliced and shattered the wings, the released jet fuel went into the building through the window slits until the burning exhaust of the engines entered the space and ignited the fire ball... and any jet fuel that might got to the elevator shafts, much less started to fall down them. The assumed unignited jet fuel in the elevator shaft would not have fallen far before ignition around it ignited it.
The explosion that rocked the lobby of WTC-1/2 came from underneath, from the underground parking areas, and was timed for when the aircraft impact. Several witnesses (WTC maintenance employees) reported on the underground damage. The burn victim was coming from the lower levels.
Here's where the real disinformation creeps in. When they interviewed victims and witnesses, the questions were framed around "a fire ball" coming from the ground floor elevator doors, and the heavy-handed narrative steering that falling jet fuel got atomized and ignited late, WHEN THERE WAS NO ACTUAL FIRE BALL.
No, what burned the victims was a heat wave side-effect from a FGNW, tactical in yield, in the category of DEW, and many were deployed in tandem -- 4 per detonation level, 6-12 detontation levels. The basement one could have been a misfire. Or maybe its purpose was to knock out the fire system and its ability to service fire fighting needs.
Yes, my 9/11 hobby-horse has entered into this discussion and taken a dump on the PM OCT narrative right out of the gate.
Before the nuke naysayers have a conniption fit, FGNW in this case were late-3rd/early-4th generation nuclear by being hybrid fission-fusion with a conventional kick-starter charge to ignite the fission stage -- not designed for destruction or radiation but -- designed to generate the requisite heat for the fusion stage that then released its highly energetic neutrons in a targeted fashion (e.g., cone-shaped fanning out upwards from ignition point). Low radiation.
FACT: The USGS survey of the dust has data tables with Uranium and all of its decay elements in correlated quantities, sample-to-sample, [that their plain text explanation never mentions] that are fingerprints of a fission stage.
FACT: The tritium report was scope-limited from the onset to look at "building content" and to not look for "demolition sources", had shoddy measurement, shoddy analysis, but achieved its goal of deflecting away from the FACT that tritium in a building block for the fusion stage in nearly all FGNW, so having a lame excuse for why it was present was required.
FACT: Although tactical in yield and although 80% of the nuclear yield is in form of the targeted release of highly energetic neutrons from the FGNW's fusion stage, 20% of the yield is in the form of a heat wave, blast wave, and EMP.
'"The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser.' This is speculation by someone who wasn't even there; no flames were observed.
"The doors cracked open on the lobby and a heat wave came out and people died," would have been a more accurate statement.
"A similar observation was made in the French documentary 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film."
No, Naudet saw burn victims. My recollection, he didn't record or recall anyone actually on fire with flames. [The whole language of "flames" is PM taking license with the narrative.] But if we assume that is true, the FGNW heat wave would be sufficient, depending on distance from ignition and impediments, to ignite clothes and burn skin.
Right out of the gate, the PM effort to defend the OCT is to spin the burn victims and lobby damage (e.g., stone wall slabs cracked and knocked off walls) as the flames, as fire, as the ignition of atomized jet fuel particles that floated down the elevator shaft and amassed in such quantities there to get sparked -- by some unknown source -- to cause a fire ball in the lobby.
Thomas Pynchon: "If you can get them asking the wrong questions, you don't have to worry about the answers."
This is certainly a PM technique.
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x596 Maxwell C. Bridges : FGNW based on low-yield thermonuclear pellets triggered by compact non-fission primaries have yields in the 1 to 100 tons range
2022-10-
Conventional explosives (and 1st and 2nd generation nuclear devices) couple their energy to the target by means of shock-waves propagating through an intervening medium, such as air, water, earth, rock, etc. FGNW are primarily very intense sources of penetrating radiation that can produce direct work on a target and thus induce a very different response.
FGNW based on low-yield thermonuclear pellets triggered by compact non-fission primaries have yields in the 1 to 100 tons range, greatly enhanced coupling to targets, enhanced prompt radiation effects, reduced collateral damage and residual radioactivity, etc.
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A first significant difference between deuterium-tritium (DT) based FGNWs and all other types of explosives is that up to 80% of the yield is in form of high-energy neutrons, so that only about 20% of the total yield contribute directly to heat and blast effects. With proper scaling, this factor of 5 difference means that a FGNW will have a factor of 5 smaller incendiary effect, and a factor {cubeRoot(5) =} 1.7 reduced blast effect -- provided [one] assumes that the energy of the neutrons will be absorbed either in the intended target, or else in a large volume of air that will not be sufficiently heated to significantly contribute to the heat and blast waves. One can therefore conclude that for a given total yield, FGNWs will have somewhat reduced collateral effects in terms of heat and blast.
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The main effect, however, will come from the neutrons. Not just because they correspond to a circa five times larger source of energy, but because neutrons can easily penetrate inside any material where they can deposit their energy locally and produce volume heating of the material. This means that the coupling can be very high, since there is little reflection in comparison to shock waves, and little losses in comparison to surface effects where part of the absorbed energy is back-radiated or lost as kinetic energy of the ablated material.
"Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: Military effectiveness and collateral effects" by Dr. Andre Gsponer
https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0510071
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{mcb: The above is peer-reviewed and published in a reputable science journal.}
Depending on design goals, FGNW can have a variety of effects, particularly for high-energy neutrons and gamma-rays that are very penetrating. FGNW can:
- Generate a fireball (in air or a material).
- Launch a shockwave (in air or in a material).
- Heat the surface of a material.
- Accelerate or compress a material.
- Transfer momentum to a material.
- Heat the volume of a material.
- Energize a working material.
- Forge and project missiles.
- Form and send high-velocity jets.
- Ablate a material and produce a shock wave in it.
Collateral effects of the above list of "mechanical" and "thermodynamical" effects are non-thermo-mechanical effects, such as an electromagetic pulse (EMP) and prompt or delayed radiations.
Words like "pulverization" and "dustification" were used to describe the WTC towers' destruction. A more accurate word is "ablate". When the surface heating is sufficiently strong, the material will vaporize (i.e., "ablate") and by reaction a large pressure will be exerted, launching a shock-wave into the material.
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The above is copied from my blog entry on the subject:
http://maxwellbridges.blogspot.com/2018/02/911-fgnw-prima-facie-case.html
I came to these discussions prepared. I doubt the Belle-tards will notice, though.
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x598 Maxwell C. Bridges : ruthlessly deleting comments individually and WHOLE threads and mini-threads
2022-10-
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, do you not care that a vengeful admin attacks the comments to this posting by ruthlessly deleting them individually and WHOLE threads and mini-threads?!!!
If you were sincere, this should worry you. Maybe what you were writing wasn't worthy. Maybe it is all your fault. [Or maybe it was my comments.]
The Belle-tards' puppet-master may have the IT skills to delete comments and post for several personas, but they are all so shallow and infrequent. What is the deal that five participants claimed that the Popular Mechanics article was ~not~ behind a paywall and that they could ~read~ it, but at each and every encounter (except possibly one), ~none~ were able to copy from that PM article and fair-use paste paragraphs into comments here. Some repeated the nonsense one-liners about not having issues despite my evidence to the contrary, yet they couldn't be bothered to drag back any choice quotations.
I already know that one of the Belle-tards is a bot-admin -- not necessarily listed -- at a higher FB level that can stall comments at the gate if the meme or content is (1) truthful about Fauci and the vaccinations, or (2) nuclear revelatory about 9/11.
You want interesting discussions?!! So you can ignore and then delete them.
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x600 Ax Eye Om : attend to the purpose of this group
2022-10-
Maxwell Bridges now please attend to the purpose of this group ... i will delete your comment above as we start afresh
x602 Maxwell C. Bridges : restore my faith in you by restoring the comments and threads
2022-10-
Ax Eye Om I understand deleting above, but given your power-struggle behind-the-scenes, restore my faith in you by restoring the comments and threads that the crazy infiltrator admin (Belle) hacked all over the discussion under this article. //
2022-10-
Maxwell Bridges ok
x606 Ax Eye Om : only one post available
2022-10-
Maxwell Bridges only one post available and now added
x608 Maxwell C. Bridges : other comments deleted from under this posting, whole threads
2022-10-
Ax Eye Om There were other comments deleted from under this posting, whole threads. ...
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x610 Ax Eye Om : can't see them
2022-10-
i can't see them .. but your main post is back up
x612 Maxwell C. Bridges : I am the Conspiratard "afflicted with Conspiratardism" that the Curer-tards are to crack deprogram and cure me of my affliction
2022-10-
Attending to the purpose of this group, I am the Conspiratard "afflicted with Conspiratardism" that the Curer-tards are to crack deprogram and cure me of my affliction. The Popular Mechanics article that anchors this thread should be copied into top-level comments by those participates who testify that they can not only reach the PM page but read all its content as well [that can be copied.] The Curer-tard cure dictates that the deprogramming from PM article be pasted here in a 100% legal, fair-use manner section-by-section.
The next phase of the Curer-tard cure happens in the discussion under those lawful repurposing of the PM content in these very sacred FB halls!
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x614 Maxwell C. Bridges : left- and back-handed invitation
2022-10-
Dear Mr. Peter Gill, Here is my left- and back-handed invitation to participate with me in this thread. Don't get mad at me. For shits-and-giggles are we here, humble servants of Truth with a capital T.
When I go to the PM article, the content is blurred and they want me to become a member. Could you double-check that for yourself? If you can ~read~ the content, it means you can copy the content... And we'll have "a gay old time" fair-use discussing what you paste into top-level comments here! If Dr. David Griffin -- patron saint of 9/11 Truth -- taught us nothing else, he taught us that when you objectively go through section-by-section OCT, you can debunk it.
WARNING: Do your work offline first; I use Notepad++. Save locally. Collect URL's from notifications and occasionally add to that saved work. It'll help you get to it; it'll help you prove it once existed. Because chances are great in these Curer-tard parts that it will have a lifespan measured in days.
In the same files, save what the other participants did or said that you are responding to.
You see legacy can be a weapon used against others who, through censorship, try to cull their true legacy.
Eventually, I re-publish this crap [but procrastination has me 2 years to catch up on]. However, even without that extra step, having the files locally that document the exchanges and where they transpired... can be worth its weight in crytocurrency! when played on subsequent unproductive disinfo carousel spins.
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Part 10: Curer-tards and mRNA
x616 Maxwell C. Bridges : "predictive programming" and Curing Conspiratards
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges->Curing Conspiratards
If we give any credence to "predictive programming", what are we subconsciously telling ourselves when we watch, say, Marvel super heroes who got their powers by getting something injected/ingested into themselves? (Captain America, Hulk, Spider-man, The Black Panther, Nick Cage, Deadpool, The Witcher, Venom, "In from the Cold", ...
Then there are the werewolf and vampires series, although old, that have this trend where ~you~ can become a super human version of yourself (with some drawbacks) if you get yourself bitten or drink the blood, or whatever hocky rules.
In many ways, this fantasy is ruining our critical thinking, because the advertisement for the mRNA technology even at version one-dot-oh is that it is "programming the body".
The issue is, the vaccine technology has never been wonderful, and its many failures largely shielded from knowledge and buried in other headline news, and "we aren't in Africa or India, and can't give a hoot about their complaints against Gates, WHO, etc."
And if your eyes are open, the mRNA tech at version one-dot-oh isn't going to be wonderful either. No super powers for you. RFK's book has the receipts.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808?fbclid=IwAR3hOAW3dCONczpcK5_Xj4kjWx0dQ3zAyC4OZs7E9XF3IevKYC2WSE2ydAU
Here's an interesting quote from the 1984 Federal Registry that RFK brought to our attention. Fauci put this regulation in, and it explains our predicament... even with Joe Rogan.
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Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1. 1984 / Rules and Regulations
"However, although the continued availability of the vaccine may not be in immediate jeopardy, any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives. Accordingly, because of the importance of the vaccine and of maintaining public confidence in the immunization program that depends on it, good cause exists to issue these amendments as a final rule effective immediately."
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I am an anti-vaxxer and can argue that case from four different perspectives:
1) The science. The medical professionals quoted in RFK's book and coincidentally banned and de-platformed will be who I refer debate opponents to.
2) The politics. Capitalism rears its ugly head.
3) Spirituality / Faith . I was raised Christian Science and know it to be one (of many) viable alternatives to the germ-warfare beliefs.
4) [Available upon request...]
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x618 Christopher Edwards : opinion on whether anyone should take the covid vaccines
2022-10-23
By the way, do you agree with Dr. John Su, head of the VAERS team on the COVID-19 response and member of the CDC's Immunization Safety Office, opinion on whether anyone should take the covid vaccines or not?
x620 Maxwell C. Bridges : substantiate that claim with the actual quotation
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, You are making a claim that "Dr. John Su, head of the VAERS team on the COVID-19 response and member of the CDC's Immunization Safety Office" has an opinion about taking the vaccine.
Please substantiate that claim with the actual quotation from "Dr. John Su, head of the VAERS team on the COVID-19 response and member of the CDC's Immunization Safety Office".
... As per the edicts of and a posting of an admin here.
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x622 Christopher Edwards : employ epistemic responsibility and popper's falsification principle, more threat from the disease than from the vaccination
2022-10-23
There have been anti vaxxers since Edward Jenner invented the smallpox vaccine, but if you employ epistemic responsibility and popper's falsification principle, you'll realise that there is much more threat from the disease than from the vaccination. 😃ðŸ‘ðŸ¾
x624 Maxwell C. Bridges : conflating old school vaccines with the mRNA gene manipulation therapy at version one-dot-oh
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Good one conflating old school vaccines with the mRNA gene manipulation therapy at version one-dot-oh, and trying to have have that new technology rest on the laurels of the old.
I'll not entertain further discussion on impressions and beliefs from old school vaccines, even though there is documented proof that they are not all equal in their effectiveness. For every smallpox-like vaccine that you post, a counter point can be made with all the vaccines that weren't, like nearly 100% of the medication for AIDS.
This discussion is about RFK's book and its contents.
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x626 Christopher Edwards : Maybe you should follow his recommendation?
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges
""No vaccine in recent history has undergone the degree of examination and monitoring that the COVID-19 vaccines have," Dr. John Su, head of the VAERS team on the COVID-19 response and member of the CDC's Immunization Safety Office, said. "The more serious adverse events are really rare and I would encourage people to talk with their care providers to learn more about these vaccines, and of course the CDC's website as well. They're safe. Go get them.""
Maybe you should follow his recommendation? 😉
https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwaukee/news/2022/01/06/doctor-pushes-back-against-misuse-of-vaers-data-by-anti-vax-groups
x628 Maxwell C. Bridges : YOU FAILED THE BOT TEST!!! Meaning, you aren't a bot!
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Right out of the gate, I must extend my heartfelt gratitude and thanks that YOU FAILED THE BOT TEST!!! Meaning, you aren't a bot! You're able to understand the meaning of my words and meet the challenge with substantiating material! Kudos! And thank you very much!
"No vaccine in recent history has undergone the degree of examination and monitoring that the COVID-19 vaccines have" says Dr. John Su, after the vaccine was unleashed on the public on a global scale without any animal trials and very short human trials.
The database in question to monitor the safety of this vaccine has its own limitations.
Tell me, how longer after a vaccination and someone dies does it not make it into the database?
"No vaccine in recent history has undergone the degree of examination and monitoring..." can be read a couple of different ways and be true. Similarly with 9/11, NIST with a straight-face and no lying-ticks that the first 18 floors of WTC-7's collapse at 5:20 pm on 2001-09-11 happened at a rate that was slower than gravity by mathematically averaging the rates of the three stages of collapse that went into those 18 floors, despite the fact that stage 2 -- 8 stories and over 100 feet -- is documented as being equivalent to gravitational acceleration.
You can get numbers to lie, and statistics to mislead.
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x630 Maxwell C. Bridges : an agent posted that article on my behalf
2022-10-23
{mcb: at 3:23 2022-10-23 "Your account is restricted right now. You're temporarily restricted from doing things like posting or commenting in groups, creating new groups until Wednesday at 3:23 PM" (2022-10-26). Seems to be applied to the tard group. However, }
Only the author of the post and people who manage Curing Conspiratards can see this post.
We encourage free expression, but don't allow false information about COVID-19 that could contribute to physical harm.
If your content goes against our Community Standards again, your account may be restricted or disabled.
You can disagree with the decision if you think we got it wrong.
+++ Supposedly from MCB
Maxwell Bridges -> Curing Conspiratards
"Delta variant hysteria exposes the sobering truth: Covid vaccines don't work
New research finds that "fully vaccinated" individuals are suffering an eith times higher mortality rate than the non-vaccinated. And a stunning report out of the UK finds that 62 percent of those dying from covid are people who have been vaccinated.
The covid vaccine, it turns out, doesn't really work.
Only those with natural immunity have real, long-term protection against covid mutations. Those who unwisely took vaccine shots must now subject themselves to endless "booster shots" that will obviously become increasingly toxic as the globalists ramp up their anti-huma depopulation schemes.
Today's featured podcast reveals why natural immunity is the anser, and why cofic tyrants will never voluntarily release their grip on humanity. They'll use endless "variant" scare stories to keep demanding masks, lockdowns, and vaccines...forever
+++ Supposedly from MCB above
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You can disagree with the decision if you think we got it wrong.
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{mcb: I did not post that article that got flagged. Given the level of admin ability and admin-bot ability, wouldn't surprise me if an agent posted that article on my behalf, precisely so that a COVID-bot-algoritm would flag, not just the posting, but me and get me suspended. An underhanded trick.}
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x632 Maxwell C. Bridges : an overwhelming need to bot-instigate with the same database entry
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, how is it that you got a hankering to visit my FB wall, scroll to a posting, bore into its comments, and feel an overwhelming need to bot-instigate with the same database entry -- still waiting for that single conspiracy theory -- bot-schtick?!!
How's this for three real-world conspiracies proved correct?
1) "Wayne Boyd" is another of your sockpuppets, which is how you got notified to come here. This is proven by the facts.
(a) "Wayne Boyd" has at least two FB profiles, and both were members of the "tard" group that you are an admin for.
(b) "Belle Armstrong" (an admin), "Kylie Dirst", and "Ax Eye Om" were legitimately connected together as having sockpuppet connects, stemming from a six hour span when their participation -- in sequence and in response to me -- occurred in the same three minute window. The speculation was quietly verified by the number of comments from me that were disappeared almost as soon as they were made if they mentioned the sockpuppetry. And let's not forget how "Belle" unfriended me, removed that profile from the "tard" group, and was suddenly no longer an "admin". (She still has another profile in the group, like Wayne.)
2) The "tard" group is a government operation that is part "wannabe narrative control" and part "agent-bot training ground." This is proven by the facts.
(a) Every comment to the group runs through an AI-bot programmed with a black list of unacceptable references. Comment found in violation don't even get out of the gate, are immediately flagged, and the offense can go on the participants "permanent record" on FB. For example, anything questioning vaccines.
(b) The half-human, half-borg agent admin and particpants of the group are not above surgically deleting comments, quietly and after the fact.
(c) The "curer-tard" portion of the participants are shallow, can't expand "see more..." links, can't follow links, can't drag back quotes or details from those links, can't discuss things, rarely write enough characters to merit "see more..." compression by FB and when they do, only a couple words were clipped, are very repetitive, don't tire of cracking spins on their carousels (e.g., "all conspiracies are crackpot") every where they participate.
3) The "curer-tards" and their forum are proof of a larger, coordinated, government (and corporate) effort to manipulate information that the masses receive and control the narrative on many different fronts, but the one that matters today are fear mongering for mRNA gene manipulation.
4) Ax Eye Om is a bot. This is proven by the following exchange in the "tard" group whose owning posting got yanked down.
+++++++++++++ Begin Exchange
Ax Eye Om posted this comment:
not a single conspiracy theory has ever been proven right .. good luck trying to find one! lol. ... Maxwell Bridges try to find one! lol .. you damn gullible clowns!
x634 Maxwell C. Bridges : Conspiracy Theories That Actually Turned Out to Be True
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
https://www.rd.com/list/conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/
12 Conspiracy Theories That Actually Turned Out to Be True
Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
Ax Eye Om https://www.buzzworthy.com/15-conspiracies-that-turned-out-to-be-true/
15 Conspiracies That Turned Out to Be True
Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
Ax Eye Om https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bldBqtgAX2o
Top 10 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out to Be True
Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MewtsLsxoDY
Top 10 Government Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True
Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
Ax Eye Om https://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/12-crazy-conspiracy-theories-actually-turned-out-be-true
12 crazy conspiracy theories that actually turned out to be true
Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
Ax Eye Om https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/conspiracy-theories/
Conspiracy Theories that Turned Out to be True
+++ Under each comment from Maxwell Bridges above, later Maxwell Bridges posted this comment:
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, your analysis is requested for the above conspiracy theories and why they are crackpot.
Reply here in this thread to just those theories at the above URL.
Take your time. And don't be cranking other distracting carousels until you've addressed these here: one-by-one.
Thank you in advance for your debunking efforts so that I might see the light and be better informed through your research, wisdom, and analysis.
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So there we have it. Four new, real-world, and home-court conspiracies followed by 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) other conspiracies that the Ax-bot didn't attempt to address.
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x636 Maxwell C. Bridges : the 12+15+10+10+10+12 conspiracies
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, That isn't even a hurdle that the 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies need to overcome; not a gating factor; not even a factor, really.
But if it were a gating factor, I'm already a step ahead of you with my last comment.
Specifically, I have a documented history of running into agents, bots, and sockpuppets assigned to control the narrative. That is the conspiracy theory: FB is infiltrated by agents, bots, and sockpuppets. I figured "Curing Conspiratards" was populated by by the same before I entered the group. And it did not disappoint.
As that comment (that you didn't read because it had a "see more..." content break) summarizes, rather quickly sockpuppets were identified, leading to admin surgical deletion of select comments alluding to that fact. "It wasn't the crime, but the cover-up."
But no. I don't really need to go there.
You were the one who established the goal posts as being conspiracy theories that turned out to be true. Now you're not only moving the goal posts, your planting them in stupid territory.
I mean, all conspiracies are discussed among the conspirators before others (e.g., the general public, law enforcement) discover them to be crimes, only they didn't call them "conspiracy theories" but instead "business partner strategies." So this notion of yours that a criminal event has to be identified and discussed by the public as a conspiracy theory prior to -- what? court case? publication in a newspaper? deathbed confession? -- is just a glaring weakness in your bot-logic.
In other words, fail.
This is the second time (in my previous comment in this thread) that 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies that turned out to be true were presented to you. The first time, each grouping of conspiracies had their own top-level comment, each of which you could have replied to and debunked. Instead, you flushed the owing posting, and hence all its discussion potential, instead of defending your claim.
Ergo, you've demonstrated your lack of sincerity and earnestness. You demand busy work that you then promptly ignore, or better yet when you have the admin power, you simply delete it.
After the second presentation of 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies that turned out to be true, your only true consistency as a bot is to NOT address a single one of them.
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x638 Ax Eye Om : conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery ... take your time
x640 Maxwell C. Bridges : Not a gating factor. Not an argument that debunks any conspiracy theory.
2022-10-23
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om, It gave me great pleasure to delete your brain-dead bot-replication of previous bot-database entries: "show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery".
Not a gating factor. Not an argument that debunks any conspiracy theory, and certainly not any of the 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies that turned out to be true, of which you have not addressed a single one.
"take your time" and don't post anything off-topic until you address one-by-one the crackpotness in the 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies.
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x642 Ax Eye Om : discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery ... take your time
x644 Ax Eye Om : checkmate bozo
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges checkmate bozo
x646 Maxwell C. Bridges : address as crackpot the 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies
2022-10-23
Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san response to the third attempt to have him address as crackpot the 12+15+10+10+10+12 (assuming no overlap) conspiracies that turned out to be true, repeats his bot-database entry on the top, effectively calling for busy work: "show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery."
Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san cannot even articulate why such a notion might have significance. It doesn't.
"checkmate bozo", and into the bit-bucket go your last two comments.
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x648 Ax Eye Om : cannot show a single one that was discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery
2022-10-23
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery ... take your time
Ax Eye Om
conspiracy theorists have never been right ever ... you cannot show a single one that was discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery .. checkmate
x650 Maxwell C. Bridges : Next step, unfriending
2022-10-23
Two more bot-troll comments -- because they were stuck in an illogical rut and near exact repetition of instigation -- from Mr. Ax Eye Om were removed. "checkmate."
Next step, unfriending.
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x652 Ax Eye Om : still waiting bozo
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges i'm still waiting bozo ....
x654 Maxwell C. Bridges : removed the last two comments himself
2022-10-23
Correction. Mr. Ax Eye Om removed the last two comments himself, but I was going to. I was even looking for the delete button on the residual images of the comments, but they were already gone when I refreshed my browser. I beat him to deleting the third comment that really added to the discussion.
Here were the two deleted entries to this discussion.
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Ax Eye Om
show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery ... take your time
Ax Eye Om
conspiracy theorists have never been right ever ... you cannot show a single one that was discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery .. checkmate
Ax Eye Om
Maxwell Bridges i'm still waiting bozo ....
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Gone, baby, gone.
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x656 Ax Eye Om : you are hopeless
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges you are hopeless
x658 Ax Eye Om : take your time ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges show me where any of those conspiracies were discussed as a conspiracy theory PRIOR to discovery ... take your time ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
{mcb: above Ax Eye Om comments removed and then he was unfriended.}
x660 Maxwell C. Bridges : busy work from a busy-bot (pun intended) to distract, annoy, and most of all, suck-time.
2022-10-23
The agency bot Ax Eye Om had this false notion that all conspiracy theories needed to be talked about by the public as such before they were discovered. And if this lame, artifical criteria was not met? Did it invalidate the theory or the conspiracy?
I don't know. No explanation was given, but was entered into this posting were several near identical, repetitous bot-database-entry drops that were deleted.
Just busy work from a busy-bot (pun intended) to distract, annoy, and most of all, suck-time.
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Part 11: Curer-tards on Whistleblower
x662 Brian Ostermark : challenge any twits who don't understand basic physics
2022-10-14
Brian Ostermark shared a post.
2022-10-14
Cool!
Just thought I'd put this here to challenge any twits who don't understand basic physics.
Usually moon landing deniers and flat Earthers.
ESA - European Space Agency
"Every orbit the International Space Station makes a summersault in space. Take a look at how we can use a gyroscope to visualise that! 😉" ESA astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti demonstrates.
x664 Maxwell C. Bridges : puts a dent in the flat earthers
2022-10-14
Dear Mr. Brian Ostermark, your video does nothing to support or refute the moon landing. Yes, it puts a dent in the flat earthers, but at their core, they were always agents and bots whose purpose was to poison the well of moon landing revelations.
At any rate, Mr. Ax Eye Om has expressed in a recent posting that participants should not be making claims that they cannot defend.
Your options are (1) edit your posting and remove the nonsense "moon landing denier" language, because you know this video has nothing to do with that on either side, or (2) defend your claim.
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x666 Brian Ostermark : groups have a lousy understanding of basic physics
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges there! I've made the second paragraph more removed so it's clearer that there is no actual claim in this post. Just an opinion on how the two groups mentioned have a lousy understanding of basic physics.
x668 Maxwell C. Bridges : physics of the radiation belt around the planet and surviving it, that's the first red flag
2022-10-14
Dear Mr. Brian Ostermark, It is physics that debunks 9/11 as being anything other than an inside job (with Israeli boots to the ground).
Physics is what debunks the moon landing as nothing more than a psychological operation. Yes, we put humans into low earth orbit, so let any one who denies that be given a red card for being such an agent / bot and poisoning the well.
The physics of the radiation belt around the planet and surviving it, that's the first red flag. Second is the President Nixon telephone chat (with minimal delays). Third is "we lost the technology" and "we recorded over the tapes." Yeah, right.
All flat-earthers are agents / bots trying to poison the well.
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x670 Ax Eye Om : not a single insider whistleblower
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges but not a single insider whistleblower .. how come?
x672 Brian Ostermark : you lot don't understand basic physics
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges the astronauts were exposed to the radiation belts as little as possible and suffered no long term affects. Just like going out in sunlight but not long enough to get burnt or cancer.
You haven't actually studied this very much have you?
Back to my opinion that you lot don't understand basic physics.
x674 Ax Eye Om : got dunning kruger real bad
2022-10-14
Ax Eye Om
Admin
Brian Ostermark he's got dunning kruger real bad
x676 Maxwell C. Bridges : Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges
Ax Eye Om, How much would you accept to have someone sexually violate your anus: $10, $100, $1k, $10k, $100k? I could keep going, but the point is, you do have a price where you would agree to be paid money in exchange for sexually degrading yourself for 15 minutes. Everyone has a price.
But those who can't be bought or controlled by their vices, they don't remain alive to blow too many whistles.
The absence of whistleblowers isn't really an argument. You also seem to conveniently forget "non disclosure agreements" that, in certain subject areas relating to, say, national security, the charges for disclosing secrets are treason and can have penalties of death.
[Pay attention, because Trump's improper handling of top secret documents and the whole circus he is creating is precisely to prevent him from getting those treason charges applied to him, which is what would happen to any body else caught like he was. Al Capone was brought down by tax evasion laws; Trump gets brought down by national secrets.]
"It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It" ~Upton Sinclair
That is a quote referring race relations, but really it applies to just about anything "conspiracy related." It certainly applies to everyone in the military and nuclear science.
P.S. Your reply is very bot-ish and repetitious.
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x678 Ax Eye Om : you expect hundreds to keep a secret that big
2022-10-14
Ax Eye Om
Admin
Maxwell Bridges there are whblowers in the military and police and you expect hundreds to keep a secret that big!? that is psychotic. .. get a grip!
x680 Brian Ostermark : clearly shows the delays in coms
2022-10-14
Brian Ostermark
Author
Maxwell Bridges and here's a link which clearly shows the delays in coms.
https://youtu.be/1Ai_HCBDQIQ
President Nixon speaking with astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin on the Moon
YOUTUBE.COM
President Nixon speaking with astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin on the Moon
President Nixon speaking with astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin on the Moon
x682 Brian Ostermark : lost the technology
2022-10-14
Brian Ostermark
Maxwell Bridges I don't know what you mean by lost the technology but yes they erased the originals after storing the footage elsewhere as per procedure. This was admitted and regretted by NASA around 2006 I think.
So, why would you admit to something like that if you were trying to cover something up? All the copied footage shows real space as it really behaves so what do you think would be on any other footage, lost or not?
The same thing? You're not making a sensible case.
And I've just debunked your first two points with facts and your last with reason.
Moonlanding deniers are flat Earthers in all but name.
Ridiculous, irrational and misinformed both.
Michael Placentino
Brian Ostermark Checkmate.
x684 Maxwell C. Bridges : a bit far-fetched that that technology was somehow lost; far more likely that it was never invented
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Brian Ostermark, Astronauts from this century have been interviewed about space flight and space missions including those to the moon and other planets. Among the obstacles they complain about are those Van Allen radiation belts and that "unfortunately" the 1960's technology was lost, they have to re-invent it, which is why we haven't gone back to the moon or beyond, except with unmanned probes, yada, yada.
I, too, find it a bit far-fetched that that technology was somehow lost; far more likely that it was never invented. And erasing the originals -- how that could ever be per procedure -- reeks of being another lie to cover-up the psyop that was perpetrated on the world. Really gave America a leg-up in the cold war though, and the space war that the USA was "losing".
Admit to a mistake that just happens to be part of the coverup. Frame it properly.
Sometimes when you study a data point too closely, you lose sight of the trendline that intersects it, kind of like the closer you get to the foothills of the rocky mountains, you actually see fewer of the really big mountains that are right behind them.
The trendline is that government(s) have a history of lying, omission, suppression, censorship, and propaganda.
You wrote: "Moonlanding deniers are flat Earthers in all but name only."
TAKE THAT BACK. IT IS BLATANTLY FALSE.
How so? Moonlanding deniers were making their case years before FE came about. So how and why did FE come about so recently?
As a NSA Q-group disinformation campaign to discredit by association 9/11 Truthers and Moonlanding deniers, who do have Venn diagram overlaps. I personally saw that disinformation get seeded into 9/11 discussions by relatively "young" FB profiles (as in, "not long in existence as a profile") who joined various 9/11 facebook groups. Classic case of poisoning the well.
And poisoning the well the ministry of public narrative was required to do, because they couldn't have these same astute, woke, researchers start validly questioning the latest psyops on the population. Divide and conquer they wanted, beforehand.
Actually, is was more of Helgian Dialectic Move.
Thesis: 9/11 truthers rightfully questioned the shody reports of agency "scientists," so will question and expose science issues in any bio-weapon attack/response.
Anti-Thesis: Create artificial groups of science-deniers (e.g., Flat-Earthers) who are so obnoxious, they poison the validity of any group or conspiracy theory that they are associated with. Cause much division and confusion.
Resolution: The general public doesn't have the patience to separate the truth from the fiction, so when the time comes, the public turns like tired children into the arms of their "vetted scientists and experts" to promote their narrative. They accept the censorship, not just of the bad-seed FE-er's but of any conspiracy theory.
FE champions displayed many of the same characteristics of those who championed 9/11 (a) no planes at the WTC and (b) Woodsian DEW. Namely, they were agents and bots with a paid [/programmed] agenda [/algorithm], never tiring of cranking the same merry-go-round in different threads (sometimes in parallel) and sometimes against the same FB persona [as in, "I didn't learn anything on the first carousel pass, so here I go and repeat."] ... Thank God, I could provide easily "goto" links (even inside of FB) to prove they were being deceitful and going in circles!
As an off-topic side note, this is how Ox Axe Om was spotted as a bot. Can't click on a "See more..." comment break, can't follow links, can't argue specifics, can't defend / substantiate their position, yet they for sure can spout expectations of debate that they then proceed to ~not~ abide by [one of "The 48 Laws of Power" by author Mr. Greene in about 2000. Because many of the laws are ancient, Trump and the GOP have been experts therein without even knowing it.]
Whoever controls the Ox Axe Om bot (an admin here) has several other sockpuppets here. Easily detected by the timing of the start and end of their participation with respect to one another.
So damn if that doesn't ding the reputation of pretty much the entire admin membership of "Curing Conspiratards", and this is before we contemplate the stupid meaning and blatant government agenda of the group's name!
For sure, one could expect that in this forum that the "Curers" of the "Conspiratards" are not in a position where they can be rational and open-minded -- despite their denials --, because they aren't going to ever be convinced (and publicly admit it) of any other point of view regardless of what is presented as substantiation. They aren't paid to change their minds but instead to promote an agenda that by default assumes there is such a thing as "conspiratard". Reeks of NSA Q-group branding.
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x686 Maxwell C. Bridges : no one went to the moon
2022-10-14
Stephen Dimitriou
Maxwell Bridges This page should be renamed Pacific Gaslighting & No Electric, Maxwell. You know that no one went to the moon. NASA is in obvious damage control and there is footage available which proves this. The primitive people in this cave revere the TV as "science" and are in full denial of any claims until they hear it from the TV.
Maxwell Bridges {admin deleted}
Dear Mr. Stephen Dimitriou, I have not been here long enough to come up with your great observations. I can see how they fit. Thank you.
Have you noticed the bots and sockpuppets here? Whenever I make a connection between sockpuppets, an admin deletes that comment. In part because I suspect that at least one of the admin's is a sockpuppet himself (and did make an appearance in this thread).
At least when I get banned from this FB group -- despite what ever lame-ass reason they give --, I'll know it was because their bots and sockpuppets were so obvious.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3017361628562074/
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x688 Ax Eye Om : not a single insider whblower?
2022-10-14
Stephen Dimitriou then why not a single insider whblower?
x690 Ax Eye Om : not a single insider whblower?
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges then why not a single insider whblower?
x692 Maxwell C. Bridges : after the "See more..." break that bots can't click on
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges {admin deleted}
Dear Mr. Stephen Dimitriou, allow me to repeat my question. Have you noticed the bots and sockpuppets here?
[Hint: See directly ^^^ above this comment, and within the very same minute of my comment, so efficient are the algorithms yet hardly enough time for a human to read it. It'll go right over his head, anyway. I can say that because technically it is after the "See more..." break that bots can't click on.]
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x694 Maxwell C. Bridges : the two admin deleted comments from me
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Stephen Dimitriou, Did you notice the two admin deleted comments from me, one before the "Ax" and one after the "Ax" and within literally a couple minutes apart.
So if I front load this paragraph with lots of words to push out the character count, the effect will be that FB creates a "See more..." break somewhere early in this paragraph. That is bait that a bot won't click on, and after the break, I can say whatever I want.
This forum has lots of agents, bots, and sockpuppets of the same. And they've infiltrated the admin ranks of this group... Bwahahaha, who am I kidding?!! The bad apples were the creators from the get go. The hold positions of admin power. They like to delete comments.
I look at this FB group, and others, as sort of a required school project for students of disinformation and desirous of joining NSA's Q-group (to congnitively infiltrate online social media and promote established agendas).
Here's a link to my discussion on bots and agents in this very forum:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3017361628562074/
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x696 Ax Eye Om : you are mentally very ill
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges you are mentally very ill
x698 Maxwell C. Bridges : Let's assume true for a moment the statment about me being "mentally very ill."
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Ax Eye Om bot-san, How quaint?!! Let's assume true for a moment the statment about me being "mentally very ill." Then why are you so bot-energetically engaging me, if that is the case? Makes your mental illness worse than mine that you'd even engage me.
Nope, by engaging me, you actually valid my position. Thus, only a "STFU" on your part would be a stronger argument than what you have provided (on all fronts where we've ever discussed anything. Kudos for that record, Ax-bot!)
Therefore, the assumption about my mental health isn't just false, it is defamation. Need I mention that it is also against the rules of this forum, or are you bot-admin's above such rules?
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x700 Stephen Dimitriou : I noticed alright
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges Yes I noticed alright, Maxwell.
x702 Maxwell C. Bridges : please bear with this introductorary blather followed by them outing themselves as sockpuppets
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges
Dear Mr. Stephen Dimitriou, please bear with this introductorary blather that I'll extend into at least a paragraph and a half, because my goal before talking about anything important is to get FB to insert one of its "See more..." content breaks. I've already given the reason why in other comments, and I'll do it again in this comment, just as soon as I have enough characters entered to get that FB compressing automation.
... Ah! Here is relief! Here I am below the fold of the "See more..." break.
Now I can talk freely without excessive bot admin actions.
Gotta love the irony in the following. A bot-ish agent continually pressures me to name one conspiracy that is valid, because according to him, all of them are crackpot. So here's a valid conspiracy theory for him to put into his pipe and smoke. This forum has lots of agents, bots, and sockpuppets of the same.
Ax_Eye_Om, Kylie_Hirst, Belle_Armstrong... are just the tip of the iceberg of personas in this forum who -- from their coincidental and prompt behavior -- have outed themselves as being sockpuppets.
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x704 Maxwell C. Bridges : Either condemn or defend the ongoing administrative actions aimed at me.
2022-10-14
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, Are you aware of the actions of a bot-ish administrator of this group? It seems his argument is so weak, he has to suspend me from the group and censor my wisdom. Is that how Conspiratards are going to be cured?
For shame, for shame!
Either condemn or defend the ongoing administrative actions aimed at me.
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x706 Maxwell C. Bridges : surgical censorship of comments says "I lost"
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges {direct message}
Dear Ax Eye Om, nothing says "I lost; I have no arguments; you are right" more mightily than surgical censorship of comments and outright suspension from your group! Is that how Conspiratards are going to be cured?
And nothing says: "I am weak and have no case" stronger than tag-teaming sockpuppets.
Ax_Eye_Om, Kylie_Hirst, Belle_Armstrong... are just the tip of the iceberg of personas in this forum who -- from their coincidental and prompt behavior -- have outed themselves as being sockpuppets.
Remember, you invited me to your group, maybe because you thought you could punk me on your home court. Nope. You got yourself PWNED pretty badly as well as the reputation of your whole group.
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x708 Ax Eye Om : not sock puppets you paranoid psychotic nutcase
2022-10-14
{direct message}
they are not sock puppets you paranoid psychotic nutcase
now you have 12 hrs to cool off and when you return try answering my question about the lack of a single insider whblower
and GET A GRIP!
x710 Maxwell C. Bridges : Your hypnotic denials have no effect on me
2022-10-14
{direct message}
Yes they are sockpuppets, and probably a few more, like Brian Ostermark. If he wasn't one of your sockpuppets, then why did you INSULT a real person but shutting down comments to HIS posting? If he's real, he did nothing wrong, but you've turned him into a victim. Good job.
Your hypnotic denials have no effect on me.
If really they weren't sockpuppets, when I first brought it up -- Ax and Kylie --, each could have publicly stated they were no relation to one another [at completely different and random times of the day], and that would have been the end of the story.
But no. Kylie has given no response at all to the accusation. Of course, one could argue that Ax was too handy with the axe to surgically remove those comments, so maybe a real person Kylie never saw it.
Nope, censorship and temporay banishment are your only tools. Reason, substantiation, and articulation are not your strong suits.
After all of this, you still haven't (a) identified a conspiracy theory that I champion and (b) proven it to be "crackpot". It was you who made a bit posting out of "DON'T MAKE ANY CLAIMS THAT YOU CAN'T DEFEND", or words to that effect. Hypocrite. Bot. Agent.
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x712 Ax Eye Om and Maxwell Bridges : try the moon landing ... go!
2022-10-14
Ax Eye Om {direct message}
try the moon landing ... go!
Maxwell Bridges {direct message}
Do you see me championing (or denying) the moon landing on my blog ... go! //
Ax Eye Om {direct message}
that's why i keep asking you for one!
are you saying to subscribe to zero consp theories?
why so defensive and evasive?
x714 Maxwell C. Bridges : my portfolio of conspiracy theories is readily available on my blog
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges {direct message}
That is right: you keep asking me for a conspiracy theory, over and over like a bot, ignorant of the fact that my portfolio of conspiracy theories is readily available on my blog. But a tell of a bot -- which you are -- is that you can't follow links, nor can you google to find the blog that I've mentioned several times.
Sure, I've not had the opportunity to post the URL to my blog in the discussions we've been having in your agency-funded little FB group, because you repeatedly stated -- under no uncertain terms -- that "all of ~my~ conspiracy theories were crackpot", which gives rise to the impression that you've been to my blog to KNOW what my theories are and why they are crackpot. Thus, no link was provided and it gave me unusual pleasure watching you stew in the stupidity of your own, over-generalized proclamations and lies. [Lie: you don't know what conspiracy theories specifically that I champion, but you said you did and cranked lots of spins on your carousel.]
Geez, you could have gone to my facebook wall and eventually found me promoting something that was on my blog. But you're a bot. You don't do work. You don't think out of the box, out of the algorithm, out of the database entry. And if you ain't a bot, you're an agent.
In any event, your participation is insincere. I mean, what was the nonsense of you -- twice now -- attempting to post bullshit directly on my FB wall?!! Get this little factoid. I work off-line, save my work, and then post onlne. Therefore, with just a little effort, I could make a posting suitable for your wall that is our unedited discussion. Won't that be sweet? [Don't hold your breath, though, because you really aren't worth the effort.]
Love your projecting your weaknesses onto me: "why so defensive and evasive?"
You're the one who censored my comments rather than address them; you're the one who banned me based on those comments.
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x716 Ax Eye Om : refuse to proffer a single one of your consp theories
2022-10-14
Ax Eye Om {direct message}
why do you refuse to proffer a single one of your consp theories?
you talk a lot but say very little
and i repeat: every single one of your consp theories are crackpot!
x718 Maxwell C. Bridges : "... casting pearls before swine."
2022-10-14
Maxwell Bridges {direct message}
Dear Mr. Ax-bot, you ask: "why do you refuse to proffer a single one of your consp theories?"
The answer comes from the Bible: "... casting pearls before swine."
In our entire history, you have been insincere, shallow, generic, unspecific, unsubstantiated. I am the opposite.
... Damn it, Ax. I was just about to give you keys to my kingdom, and then you go and make another dumb comment: "and i repeat: every single one of your consp theories are crackpot!"
As mentioned many times in recent history, this statement suggests that you are familiar with my conspiracy theories already, else you would not have been able to judge them as crackpot. Yet despite you bragging about such familiarity with my views, you still fail to mention a single one.
Thus, you "repeat" a lie, because your bot algorithms don't know no better.
... Oh, what the hell? ...
Enter the following without the double quotes into google: "maxwell bridges FGNW".
{2023-11-01 mcb: No longer works "maxwell bridges FGNW" and getting to my blog with Google. Results have my article, but only the one I posted on "The Vatic Project" and not my blog. Example of "Shadow Banning." }
You wanted a theory, well right there is my 9/11 hobby-horse. Let's see if your bot algorithms can even get you there and can get you to copy any given sentence written by me that you see there. Consider it a bot-test [that you'll fail.]
Before I forget, let me return briefly to your sockpuppet denials. Without consulting with Brian Ostermark, you (as admin) temporily shut down comments to HIS posting, and they remain off. If he was real, he'd be upset; you're turning him into an innocent victim, and you already exhibited other techniques of deleting any of my unwanted sockpuppet comments. So, whereas I only suspected before of his intimate relationship with "your right hand", those admin actions prove it. I mean, Brian was on your side and arguing things better than you ever did. Why did you screw him and his posting over?
You wrote: "you talk a lot but say very little".
You talk little and say even less, so shallow and insincere you are. A little time-sucking bot-instigator of flame wars.
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x720 Maxwell C. Bridges : Ax-admin just suspended me for another 12 hours.
2022-10-14
Dear Ms. Belle Armstrong, It seems that the Ax-admin just suspended me for another 12 hours.
>+++
Group rules that were violated
1 No promotions or spam
Give more than you take in this group. Self-promotion, spam and irrelevant links aren't allowed. This includes posting thousands of memes in a 5 minute period.
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Fact: when he deletes comments, he destroys the evidence that might make his case for suspension or banishment.
As he so boldly stated: "Don't be making claims that you can't defend."
So, please have him identify & quote the suspending worthy offenses. [Hint: He doesn't like me calling out his sockpuppets that were easily identified from their coordinated actions.
If he fails to justify his actions, then you, as admin Ms. Armstrong, should re-instate me.
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Part 12: Predictive Programming Again
x722 Maxwell C. Bridges : predictive programming superheroes who inject
2022-10-23
Maxwell Bridges->Curing Conspiratards
If we give any credence to "predictive programming", what are we subconsciously telling ourselves when we watch, say, Marvel super heroes who got their powers by getting something injected/ingested into themselves? (Captain America, Hulk, Spider-man, The Black Panther, Nick Cage, Deadpool, The Witcher, Venom, "In from the Cold", ...
Then there are the werewolf and vampires series, although old, that have this trend where ~you~ can become a super human version of yourself (with some drawbacks) if you get yourself bitten or drink the blood, or whatever hocky rules.
In many ways, this fantasy is ruining our critical thinking, because the advertisement for the mRNA technology even at version one-dot-oh is that it is "programming the body".
The issue is, the vaccine technology has never been wonderful, and its many failures largely shielded from knowledge and buried in other headline news, and "we aren't in Africa or India, and can't give a hoot about their complaints against Gates, WHO, etc."
And if your eyes are open, the mRNA tech at version one-dot-oh isn't going to be wonderful either. No super powers for you. RFK's book has the receipts.
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci/Robert-F-Kennedy/Children-s-Health-Defense/9781510766808?fbclid=IwAR3hOAW3dCONczpcK5_Xj4kjWx0dQ3zAyC4OZs7E9XF3IevKYC2WSE2ydAU
Here's an interesting quote from the 1984 Federal Registry that RFK brought to our attention. Fauci put this regulation in, and it explains our predicament... even with Joe Rogan.
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Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1. 1984 / Rules and Regulations
"However, although the continued availability of the vaccine may not be in immediate jeopardy, any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives. Accordingly, because of the importance of the vaccine and of maintaining public confidence in the immunization program that depends on it, good cause exists to issue these amendments as a final rule effective immediately."
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I am an anti-vaxxer and can argue that case from four different perspectives:
1) The science. The medical professionals quoted in RFK's book and coincidentally banned and de-platformed will be who I refer debate opponents to.
2) The politics. Capitalism rears its ugly head.
3) Spirituality / Faith . I was raised Christian Science and know it to be one (of many) viable alternatives to the germ-warfare beliefs.
4) [Available upon request...]
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Part 13: Afflicted with Conspiratardism
x724 Maxwell C. Bridges : "afflicted with Conspiratardism"
2022-11-
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2627191070912467/posts/3024611187837118/?comment_id=3029418814023022&reply_comment_id=3029623160669254¬if_id=1667359713506659¬if_t=group_comment_mention
Attending to the purpose of this group, I am the Conspiratard "afflicted with Conspiratardism" that the Curer-tards are to crack deprogram and cure me of my affliction. The Popular Mechanics article that anchors this thread should be copied into top-level comments by those participates who testify that they can not only reach the PM page but read all its content as well [that can be copied.] The Curer-tard cure dictates that the deprogramming from PM article be pasted here in a 100% legal, fair-use manner section-by-section.
The next phase of the Curer-tard cure happens in the discussion under those lawful repurposing of the PM content in these very sacred FB halls!
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x726 Maxwell C. Bridges : back-handed invitation to participate
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Peter Gill, Here is my left- and back-handed invitation to participate with me in this thread. Don't get mad at me. For shits-and-giggles are we here, humble servants of Truth with a capital T.
When I go to the PM article, the content is blurred and they want me to become a member. Could you double-check that for yourself? If you can ~read~ the content, it means you can copy the content... And we'll have "a gay old time" fair-use discussing what you paste into top-level comments here! If Dr. David Griffin -- patron saint of 9/11 Truth -- taught us nothing else, he taught us that when you objectively go through section-by-section OCT, you can debunk it.
WARNING: Do your work offline first; I use Notepad++. Save locally. Collect URL's from notifications and occasionally add to that saved work. It'll help you get to it; it'll help you prove it once existed. Because chances are great in these Curer-tard parts that it will have a lifespan measured in days.
In the same files, save what the other participants did or said that you are responding to.
You see legacy can be a weapon used against others who, through censorship, try to cull their true legacy.
Eventually, I re-publish this crap [but procrastination has me 2 years to catch up on]. However, even without that extra step, having the files locally that document the exchanges and where they transpired... can be worth its weight in crytocurrency! when played on subsequent unproductive disinfo carousel spins.
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x728 Stella Marie Ivory : Belle is no Bot and you are not understandable
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Here"¦ is this a help, it was a lie or made to deceive and Belle is no Bot and you are not understandable"¦ is that enough to debate about
May be an image of text that says 'Twenty years later, 9/11 conspiracy theories linger on. In the years following the report of this publication, truthers would launch of variety of attacks on Popular Mechanics, accusing the magazine of being a tool of the federal government and drawing tinfoil-hat diagrams to tie Popular Mechanics to the Bush Administration and the supposed big conspiracy. If all this nonsense accomplished anything, it was to presage our current era of "alternative facts" and attacking the messenger whenever the message clashes with one's predetermined beliefs.'
Maxwell Bridges
Scroll to the next paragraphs, make picture, put in your comment.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Repeat.
P.S. When you say I am not understandable, why I'm just adhering to the About statement of this group, to the right of this comment section (when you have FB expanded to the entire big screen.)
Belle is no bot, but she is also not directly a participant. She does delete comments. She does participate with aliases that themselves might only be a week old in this forum, dear Ms. Stella Marie Ivory.
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x730 Stella Marie Ivory : admin and a personal friend so not a bot
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Belle participates only with topics she is knowledgeable about, she is also admin and a personal friend so not a bot.
And you're not understandable because you make everything too complicated
It's easy 9/11 happened as we saw it on TV because a madman got lucky"¦ simple really, it doesn't matter why when how.
Same with the assassination of JF K it happened unfortunately or maybe fortunately?
We will never know.
x732 David Griffin : not a qualified doctor
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges Please note I am not a qualified doctor!
x734 Maxwell C. Bridges : forgive me for the FB auto-tagging
2022-11-
Dear Dr. David Griffin (PhD in theology?), Please forgive me for the FB auto-tagging that happened when I dropped your name in reference to your "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" book... in a short thread that some vengeful agent-admin already saw fit to disappear. That is the legacy of an agency backed endeavor; they don't leave one that -- after culling of the "bad" comments -- doesn't whittle down to shallow statements and weak backslapping between the agent-personas.
Owing to the expected short (days) longevity of anything contributed to this tard forum, I do not recommend this tard forum as a place to hang out or waste your brain cells on...
Unless, like me, you: write worthy words & save offline; paste those reasons words into comments; offline keep a collection of the worthy words [and the unworthy words of the discussion opponent] for the one-day re-purposing in a forum under your control. [Procrastination has gotten the best of me, putting me already a couple years behind in re-publishing my exchanges, so the legacy is hardly a threat today to any agency agenda.]
Why am I here? Collecting data. With this data, we prove that this FB group -- as one example -- is the poster child for the agency infiltration of social media and its direct censorship rather than offering any "cures for conspiratardism". The engagement of bots and sockpuppets has been particularly noteworthy. The consistency in the shallowness and genericness of their comments, combined with timing of activity, often flags their participation. An example: I make comments on different threads; radio silence in the group for hours; suddenly within a three minute window, two or more different personas engage my comments with LOL or sad emoticons and then lame two-liner generic comments that probably also contained ad hominem.
Be that as it may, I've set the expectations.
By the way, can you read the Popular Mechanics article? It is behind a paywall for me that I am not willing to pay. If they want to defend it, they need to fair-use copy-and-paste it into the comments. Remarkable how that has turned into an insurmountable agent-bot challenge.
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x736 Maxwell C. Bridges : best not to try to split your personality in the same discussion
2022-11-
Dear Ms. Stella Marie Ivory, Please defend your statement:
"It's easy 9/11 happened as we saw it on TV because a madman got lucky"¦ simple really, it doesn't matter why when how."
Here I thought that ~I~ was the lone conspiratard participating in this group! But when you write retarded things like the above, followed by boot-licking ignorance "it doesn't matter why when how."
Here's analogy. "Man found dead of stab wounds in kitchen and woman holding bloody knife standing next to him." According to you, it doesn't matter "why when how." Both of these backstories are equivalent. [A] Woman was beaten and brutalized by man continually for months; she had fresh bloodied and bruised face; the knife was a kitchen knife. [B] Woman spent weeks in the garage forging, polishing, and sharpening the perfect blade, and the man's stabbed body appeared as if a giant sewing machine had stabbed him from one end to the other and all around.
In a just a fair society, woman A could claim self-defense, be exonerated, and let free to live her life; and woman B probably not. But according to you, "why when how" don't matter except that with the same outcome -- a man killed by stabbing. So when woman A and woman B move next door to you on either side and start eyeing your man, the "why when how" of the publicized cases might actually matter to you.
You continued in your hypnotic expression: "Same with the assassination of JF K it happened unfortunately or maybe fortunately? We will never know."
Nothing like hypnotizing yourself into doing nothing from the onset: "Don't question any authority. Big brother has already told you what you need to believe: JFK magic bullets, 9/11-Allah-defying-physics, the vaccine works just not for the things we said [prevents infection and spreading]."
Nothing contradicts the sentiment that the "why when how don't matter" than (a) your participation as a curer-tard in a forum dedicated to deprogramming conspiratardism, and (b) the censorship of comments, threads, and postings that were on topic and did not violate any rules of the group. Nothing quite says as strongly "MY POSITION LOST THE DEBATE!!!" than censorship.
When you write about Belle the admin, personal friend, not-a-bot, who only participates on topics she is knowledgeable about, I am inspired to exercise my super powers of being naive and trusting and simply TAKE YOU AT YOUR WORD. I choose to ignore the red-flag that when a participant, such as yourself, has only existed as a member in a conspiratardism group for a week, they might not know so personally the admin or the group's nature, and if they did from way before, they waited a long time before joining and contributing to the discussion that happened to coincide with ~my~ fresh endeavors.
It doesn't bother me when participation is expressed in words by the persona-du-jour, although it is best not to try to split your personality in the same discussion.
An issue for the whole group is when participation is silent and amounts to disappearing comments, threads, and postings.
By the way and to bring us back on topic. Time for you to paste in images of the next paragraphs of the Popular Mechanics article. Don't leave me hanging in such suspense!
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x738 David Griffin : not affiliated with any conspiracy theory publications
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges Thanks on that but just a brief, sorry FB for you would of sufficed. I can read the above article without any major issue. I am not affiliated with any conspiracy theory publications.
x740 Maxwell C. Bridges : apologize for dragging you into this and for the mistaken identity
2022-11-
Dear Mr. David Griffin, So you are not "David Ray Griffin", author of "The New Pearl Harbor"? At one point, that Griffin was FB friends with me and how FB tends to auto-tag. Guess that got changed with its algorithms.
I apologize for dragging you into this and for the mistaken identity.
But as long as you are here and ~can~ get to the article and read it, could you do me a favor by fair-use copying-pasting the second section of that PM article to a top-level comment, for the purposes of analysis?
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x742 David Griffin : URL it doesn't like in the depths of it
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges Sorry it's not liking that, picked up a URL it doesn't like in the depths of it. Ha FB for you!
x744 Maxwell C. Bridges : the PM link anchoring this posting is now bad?
2022-11-
Dear Mr. David Griffin, Who is it, and what URL doesn't it like? Are you saying the PM link way above anchoring this posting is now bad (or now throws up its blurring of content behind the paywall)? Or are you saying that Mr. Christopher Edwards 12 foot ladder over paywalls doesn't work with the PM URL?
Curious minds want to know.
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x746 Christopher Edward : 12 foot ladder
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Are you sure that 12 foot ladder didn't work, champ? 🤔
May be an image of text that says '02-UK 17:10 AA 80% 12ft.io POPULAR MECHANICS SUBSCRIBE SIGN IN HOME NEW TECH SCIENCE Gear-obsessed editors choose every product we review. We may earn commission you buy from a link. Why Trust Us? Military 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Debunking the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Special Report -The World Trade Center Popular Mechanics.ovemines_the Mechanics evidence and CO sults the experts refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11. POP 12ft.io BYPOPUL Is the paywall gone? Yes No'
x748 David Griffin : more busy closing down the warning window
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges No, tried copying it out and when pasted into FB. 1, Had to cut the length, 2 It picked up an odd URL(s) it didn't like and then won't let me edit it or others out. Not sure which ones, more busy closing down the warning window.
Anyway software to install and food to eat.
x750 Maxwell C. Bridges : what of my comments remains in this thread by the end of the day
2022-11-
Dear Mr. David Griffin and Mr. Christopher Edwards, the 12 foot ladder I was able to get to work and save locally a copy of the page in question. Thank you for your assistance.
In the near future, I'll be fair-use coping in passages from the PM article followed by my analysis underneath.
First test is to see what of my comments remains in this thread by the end of the day. Doesn't make much sense (except for my personal archives and endeavors) to be making reasoned, rational, research comments if vengeful curer-tards retro-actively go in that night or next day to purge my efforts.
I'm still gonna do the offline effort. Will sit well in my portfolio when I get around to updating it.
//
x752 Wayne Boyd : sit back and let us heal you
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges well admitting to your problem is the biggest step now sit back and let us heal you
x754 Maxwell C. Bridges : look forward to your healing session
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, I look forward to your healing session. Because you have already stated multiple times that you can get to the Popular Mechanics article and can read it (e.g., not blurred with a bottom-banner for $4/month digital access), please further the curing of my conspiratardism in a most effective and easy way: Copy the next section of the article into a top-level comment (legal fair-use).
Be lazy and let its words do your talking and curing the easy way. Stand on their shoulders by pasting the next section here and don't think too much.
Just make sure PM's curing words are given re-publication here to bless us all.
//
x756 Christopher Edward : Have you tried using this, champ?
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Have you tried using this, champ? 😉
Prepend 12ft.io/ to the URL of any paywalled page, and we'll try our best to remove the paywall and get you access to the article.
https://12ft.io
x758 Maxwell C. Bridges : break laws by removing paywalls
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, You seem to be encouraging ~me~ to break laws by removing paywalls. First and foremost, THE POSTING ABOVE IS YOURS; YOU MUST DEFEND IT. So if this 12 foot paywall ladder exists for me, it exists for you, too, and should be used by you to fair-use re-publish section-by-section the PM piece. To date, your persona has done next to zilch in this regard, yet you expect the discussion to progress?!! How kwazy iz zat?!!
Secondly, why are you bringing up a paywall-ladder when YOU ALREADY TESTIFIED TO BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE PM PAGE AND READ IT. And you made the above posting to ask others if they could as well, and five participants stepped forward to agree with you, and to victim-shame me that I couldn't get there and read it. Coincidence that all five of you held out?!!! No, shit; that is actually a conspiracy "right here in River City that starts with C and rhymes with P, and that stands for Pool." ["Music Man" reference; sorry, couldn't help myself.]
Thirdly, the onus is on you. If PM is your bible that you must go slapping down URL's in various discussions (which you know you did), then why am I here BEGGING and PLEADING for someone to give me THE NEXT SET OF PARAGRAPHS from the bible, so that I can be cured of my conspiratardism!!!
Makes you a meanie for denying me the medicine in truth that I need most. You dangle it front of me like cheese for a mouse on a treadmill! Just always out of reach! WHY DO YOU TORMENT ME SO?!!! Are you a psychopath who gets his jollies out of teasing others with only "the hint of information and truth" but never the substance! Oh, you cruel, cruel beast!
//
https://genius.com/Meredith-willson-ya-got-trouble-lyrics
x760 Maxwell C. Bridges : 12 ft. ladder does work to get over the 10 ft. paywall of PM
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, If you further the discussion by posting the next section of the article AND if I reply to it with my analysis, (a) it falls directly in line with world-wide fair-use on copyrighted material and (b) accusations of me being a "sealion" get invalidated. With the paragraphs that Ms. Marcie Jo Lentz had already posted (but that I had to re-post, twice), my analysis thereof already proves my intent, and sealion ain't it. //
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, Your 12 ft. ladder does work to get over the 10 ft. paywall of PM.
I suppose I should stop bugging other participants into copying and pasting what they can read into this discussion.
I'll start doing it myself.
If I get censored along the way, if threads get removed, then by default the curer-tards LOSE and the conspiratards beliefs -- however cwazy dey iz -- WIN and are considered truthful and valid from that point on.
//
x762 Wayne Boyd : so can youn
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges so can youn
x764 Christopher Edwards : a strawman argument is?
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Do you know what a strawman argument is? 😉
May be an image of text
{mcb: image of my comment with circled passage "If I get censored along the way, if threads get removed, then by default the curer-tards LOSE and the conspiratards beliefs -- however cwazy dey iz -- WIN and are considered truthful and valid from that point on."}
x766 Stella Marie Ivory : he's after a debate
2022-11-
Christopher Edwards
Forget it, sorry to say he's after a debate, but not one where you do it back and forward but one where he's right about something he's wrong about.
x768 Maxwell C. Bridges : just about any form of censorship is a forefeit
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, I ~do~ know what a strawman argument is [which my in-progress analysis of the PM article will prove at a later date in the near future], but fail to see how my amended statement is such:
"If I get censored along the way, if threads get removed, then by default the curer-tards LOSE and the conspiratards beliefs (being defended in the discussion) -- however cwazy dey iz -- WIN and are considered truthful and valid from that point on."
Okay, maybe some clarification is in order, but in a nutshell, just about any form of censorship [except culling of, say, bot spamming of memes, proven repetition, and flame war instigations] is a forefeit. Period. Given that I have already experienced it and pointed out the "words gone missing", you have already have had warnings on how your comments and actions will be construed in convincing -- not each other but -- the latter-day lurker readers. Bonus points of censorship: agenda of the censorship agent exposed, integrity of the entire group dinged, and my (new and on-going) conspiracy theory validated.
With my censorship, not only will you lose the wisdom and value of the culled comments, but also of my participation here. So sad. Because otherwise RIGHT NOW, BITCHES, I AM THE SHOW AND THE BEST THE TARDS HAVE EVER HAD!!! ... El-oh-el, right? But without me, without my conspiratardism, what does this group have?... Boring. No challenge. The analogy of playing yourself in a game of chess comes to mind, and not nearly as much fun as A REALLY GOOD OPPONENT!
So don't fuck it up.
One other thing. I don't know if you're a Batman or a spoofed up Robin, Joker, or Riddler. I ask only that personas engage me who can be near 100% Batman (Bruce Wayne parts exempted), and that spoofed up Robin's, Joker's, and Riddler's who can only be a limited fraction of "their" Batman, remain out of the discussions.
I need not remind you that "spoofs" played on one or both sides of a discussion is deceitful, and if discovered even at late dates can retro-actively undermine if not destroy the position and goal of that the "spoofs" were called in to defend.
I have had many comments censored that correctly laid suspicion on certain persona as not being genuine, hence the direct and immediate censorship imposed on me. In other words: DIRECT HIT, ON THE MONEY, G-SPOT FOUND. Ergo. If you spoof and I utter my most likely proven right suspicion, I'll get censored which turns into an automatic forfeiture of the debate IN MY FAVOR. Yes, I can game the discussion! But. I DO NOT WANT AN EASY WIN OR A WIN ON A TECHNICALITY. I want to be legitimately cured of my conspiratardism.
This posting that you own has become a rather weak skeleton of its former self. And that didn't bother you. Shame on you, Boy Wonder! I want your Batman, not his spoof... when I get my analysis of the article fully prepared in the near future.
//
x770 Maxwell C. Bridges : the appearance of a 100% Batwoman in your persona
2022-11-
Dear Ms. Stella Marie Ivory, I am most grateful for the appearance of a 100% Batwoman in your persona. Why are you "sorry to say (Max Bridges is) after a debate"? That's what FB discussions are for, and by such means Curer-tard cures are administered to the duped useful idiot conspiratards.
Why is debate a bad thing? But really, it is not so. No, no, no. Another more powerful admin of this group told me to "attend to the purposes of this group".
"I am the Conspiratard 'afflicted with Conspiratardism' that the Curer-tards are to crack deprogram and cure me of my affliction."
And he even GAVE ME THE STAGE. [I haven't taken it yet, will in the near future, but you don't want to piss off this prima-donna before your cure can be conjured up!]
This is not the right Bat Channel for me to receive the Curer-tard cures on my PM conspiratardism. You'll know when the proper Bat Channel is opened for your Batwoman wisdom to cure me, an admitted "industrial strength conspiracy theorist." [Voice of George Takei] Oooh, MYYyyyy!
Telling Mr. Christopher Edwards to "Forget it, ... he's after a debate, but not one where you do it back and forward but one where he's right about something he's wrong about."
I am not married to my conspiracies. I do not relish being the sole duped useful idiot on some fronts. I can and have admitted I was wrong in the past. Hey, I was once a very skillful champion of NPT@WTC [the No Plane Theory at the WTC]. But I kept an open-mind, recognized the analysis and evidence that exposed the disinformation in NPT@WTC, I publicly recanted and apologized.
NOT A BIG DEAL IF I'M PROVEN WRONG! I'll say, "I'm sorry; my bad; I was mistaken; upon further reflection of this new analysis or evidence, I change my mind and publicly apologize for having ever led others astray."
This is the power of a real Batman persona, that I am, going even to the core of my Bruce Wayne.
Something tells me that I should not expect the same reaction from any Curer-tard here if it turns out -- through better research, analysis, argumentation -- they were the duped ones and the OCT-tards that the joke is on.
//
x772 Stella Marie Ivory : you may be so boring
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Sir"¦ have you ever thought that you may be so boring that you are actually taking up too much space in these threads?
Maybe you make everything far too complicated, respectfully you may need to find a bunch of Oxford educated kids to have fun with, because this is not exactly that group.
x774 Stella Marie Ivory : dealing with industrial strength idiots for quite some time - Delete or ban
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Thank you"¦ I got the batwoman part, and industrial strength part.
I have been dealing with industrial strength idiots for quite some time, thanks
And I do know the solution well
Delete or ban
But thank you for the advice
May I suggest you ask admin for some power as you are obviously in need of some acknowledgment 👌
x776 Maxwell C. Bridges : your favorite prima-donna "lob"
2022-11-
Dear most honorable and reverand admin Ax Eye Om!!! Before your favorite prima-donna "lob" could complete the scenery for the backset of the stage you promised him for his theatrical performance that his growing fan base of lurking personas are eager to see AND CURE, this other entitled Karen prima-donna, Ms. Stella Marie Ivory, who isn't an admin, BULLIES ME and THREATENS the star of the next big show to "delete or ban" him!!! As if a week-old newbie in these parts would have such power.
Is that promised censorship some new form of rational discussion and curing of the conspiratards? What will the latter-day lurker readers think when the rotting skeleton of a curing forum reveals clues of the missing vibrant discussion? And what about the internet-denizens who elsewhere in the Ethernet stumble upon an unedited, uncensored, unbanned version with back-links to the FB source, that expose the cheat, the deceit, and the full exchange? Oooh, MYyyy!
^^^ THAT ^^^ attitude in the comment, right there from Ms. Stella, who isn't an admin, is what poisons whatever cure this group conjures up that is supposed to enlighten the world.
Whether or not Ms Stella has the ear of Ms. Belle Armstrong (Ms. Belle Armstrong Natalie), Ms. Jenny Talia, or Ms. Cat Hulu -- esteemed admins here ...
I AM MR. AX EYE OM'S LOB, bitches!
Means that if Ms. Stella comes whining and crying to a lady-admin to censor comments, threads, or postings, Ax-admin and lady-admin might find themselves in conflict!!! [I loved it when Ms. Bella got briefly demoted in favor of Mr. Joran just over a week ago. Who'd she do to get promoted back? Who's your boss, bitches?! Mr. Ax Eye Om, the creator of this group, that's who!]
Worse still from a much larger picture and agenda, read what I wrote to boy-wonder Mr. Christopher Edwards just a few comments ago:
"If I get censored along the way, if threads get removed, then by default the curer-tards LOSE and the conspiratards beliefs (being defended in the discussion) -- however cwazy dey iz -- WIN and are considered truthful and valid from that point on."
That win monetarily for me is zero. But the financial loss to this curing establishment -- the growth of its membership -- in the face of discrediting actions (e.g., censorship) by a whining Kaffeeklatsch?!!... *sniff* *wiping-tear-from-eye* So much time and effort to build to your 343 members, only to get thrown into the bit-bucket and that bucket buried... Oh, such a sad fork in the time line that you have the power to avoid.
Ms. Stella Marie Ivory tries to insult me with: "I have been dealing with industrial strength idiots for quite some time."
Right there with the BULLYING ad hominem "idiot" is the hole in Ms. Stella's assumption. As if such skill and practice "with idiots" will serve Ms. Stella well in a discussion with "an industrial strength conspiracy theorist" who might not be an idiot, else Ms. Stella wouldn't be encouraging him to go hang with "a bunch of Oxford educated kids". Is it because Ms. Stella knows that maybe "educated" -- forget "Oxford educated" -- isn't an adjective that Ms. Stella think applies to herself and all of the other 343 members of this group... Oh, how sad and tragic! *sob* *sniffle*
Because Ms. Stella isn't an admin, and her panties are already in a wad, she is allowed to block me. Self-censorship is censorship that I approve of.
Alas, better for me the devil that I know than the one I don't. Please, Ms. Stella, don't block me, and get your strap-on ready, honey!
This is me bending over and exposing my plumber's crack... while I go back to building the set for the STAGE that the most worshipful Ax-admin HAS GIVEN TO ME! .... Bwahahahaha!
Patience.
//
x778 Stella Marie Ivory : Is this guy saying I'm threatening him?
2022-11-
Ax Eye Om"¦.
Are you kidding me?
Is this guy saying I'm threatening him?
Please see my comments to see that's not true, I don't even comprehend what he's saying let alone threaten"¦
I'm not sure what he wants but Belle is a personal friend as are you, although you may know me under a few other names.
I'm not actually here to play with him, and certainly don't want to.
I know he's annoying to Belle so defend her that is it.
Anyway there too much happening in the cooker world atm to bother with this rot"¦thanks for listening.
x780 Maxwell C. Bridges : "you may know me under a few other names"
2022-11-
Dear Ms. Stella Marie Ivory, Your friend Bella won't be happy that you admit: "you may know me under a few other names." It's called "sockpuppeting". Were those other names used in the same discussion? ... Nevermind.
Not only did you threaten me, Ms. Stella, you had your hench-admin-woman act on it, as I was once again (at least the 4th time) booted from the Group and had to re-join.
You wrote:
"I don't even comprehend what he's saying."
Then you are out of your depth, and I encourage you to be keep your promise: "I'm not actually here to play with him, and certainly don't want to."
Go away. Better yet, block me.
You wrote: "I know he's annoying to Belle so defend her that is it."
Ms. Belle was not being attacked any where in this thread. Ms. Belle does not need you to "defend her." However, that Ms. Bella has a friend in Ms. Stella and "under a few other names" does hit at the heart of an ongoing issue that I've had with this forum, and with Ms. Bella suspected "under a few other names" engaging me from multiple directions.
What is being attacked -- and is losing more by default than anything else -- are the OCT conspiratardism that has modern day hooks into the bot and FB algorithm powered "anti-cooker", anti-science, anti-reason agency agendas.
I've learned that those two subjects trigger in this forum surgical censorship of comments, booting from the Group, etc. Actually, any half-way serious "cooker" discussion has led to lying in a FB report (e.g., allegedly against group rules) that enacted suspension periods.
Ms. Stella, you have no obligation to chime into anything I write. You have no obligation to monitor me, even if I do annoy Ms. Bella. The group has 343 members and 3 other admin's who can measure out any cures to conspiratardism that I might utter. That is what this group is for, right?
//
x782 Chris Bren : paywall regional
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges no paywall for me. Maybe it's regional.
x784 Maxwell C. Bridges : Popular Mechanics has conspired to let some regions of the world read content for free
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Chris Brent, I agree with your conspiratard theory. Popular Mechanics has conspired to let some regions of the world read the content for free, while others regions cannot. For reasons of ability to pay mostly, I'd wager. This persona is in Colorado (USA to the west of its center; the weaponized spy drones already know my GPS coordinates), while others are from down under, from England, and from the Ethernet.
Turns out, someone gave me a 12 foot ladder to climb over that 10 foot paywall and copy the content for fair-use analysis and discussion. [TEASER: Under a new posting and not this skeleton relic.]
I appreciate your efforts and confirmation.
//
x786 Christopher Edwards : Still Sealioning
2022-11-
Maxwell Bridges
Still Sealioning, champ? 😉
"Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
x788 Maxwell C. Bridges : If a big fat deuce gets pushed out from me any where near your quotations
2022-11-
Dear Mr. Christopher Edwards, posting repeatedly things that aren't related to the discussion and can't be proven from actions in the discussion, isn't just a "red-herring". It is also a bot-fail.
I mean, for sealioning to apply, YOU would first have to do the busy work of copying and pasting into this forum QUOTATIONS from the article. At that point, my choices are (1) ignore or (2) reply with my analysis.
If a big fat deuce gets pushed out from me any where near your quotations, your prematurely ejaculating sealion gets his tusks deposited figuratively up your deuce hole.
So you'd thought you'd avoid the embarrassment by failing the bot test and not posting any quotation from the source. *shaking head* How anyone could think that "nothing" and bragging about the "nothing" could rationally cure anybody, is beyond me... but not your algorithms, evidently.
Only thanks to your 12 foot ladder over a 10 foot paywall do you get off the hook for NOT DEFENDING YOUR PREMISE with quotations from the very same premise that you posted above and bragged didn't have a paywall, could be read, and hence its passages copy and fair-use pasted in here for discussion.
Screwed the pooch on that one.
No concern now. I did YOUR LEGWORK. I have the article already divided into 6 sections for my expert analysis on a NEW STAGE, and not this rotting skeleton that you think has importance.
You are encouraged to ignore that posting and its comments when it arrives. You are less than genuine. If this were Star Trek, you'd be wearing a red shirt. The discussion will need your Ambassador Spock.
//
x790 Maxwell C. Bridges : being relevant and fair-use compliant
2022-11-
Resurrected from my archives: Here is the information copy-and-pasted by dear, sweet Ms. Marcie Jo Lentz that in two places was deleted, despite it being relevant and fair-use compliant.
Disclaimer: The following quotations are assumed to have come from the Popular Mechanics article. If they are in fact not from the article, or if they are wrongly quoted before coming across my desktop, one of the Curer-tards who testifies to making it passed the Popular Mechanics paywall and being able to read the content: those are charged with vetting the words.
+++ begin quotation
CLAIM: The first hijacked plane crashed through the 94th to the 98th floors of the World Trade Center's 110-story North Tower; the second jet slammed into the 78th to the 84th floors of the 110-story South Tower. The impact and ensuing fires disrupted elevator service in both buildings. Plus, the lobbies of both buildings were visibly damaged before the towers collapsed. "There is NO WAY the impact of the jet caused such widespread damage 80 stories below," claims a posting on the San Diego Independent Media Center website (sandiego dot indymedia dotorg). "It is OBVIOUS and irrefutable that OTHER EXPLOSIVES (... such as concussion bombs) HAD ALREADY BEEN DETONATED in the lower levels of tower one at the same time as the plane crash."
FACT: Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)"”a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce"”released another report in spring 2005. NIST shared its initial findings with Popular Mechanics at the time, and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters.
The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel"”and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."
Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film.
+++ end quotation
// part 1/2
part 2/2
OCT means, "official conspiracy theory", and various agencies FEMA, NIST, and Popular Mechanics promote OCT in the narrative that they conjure up in their description.
What a wonderful picture of unspent jet fuel (whether or not on fire) dropping down Pez-Dispenser-tyle the "throat" of an exposed elevator shaft that the impacts conveniently cut. Don't you love the contradictions?
[1] "sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, [and created] a conduit for burning jet fuel"”and fiery destruction throughout the building." [PM spin.]
[2] "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert.
[3] "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off." Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert.
I give the OCT authors kudos for their imagination and fairy tales.
Yes, the WTC had express elevators that went all the way from the bottom to the top, but it also had express elevators to certain staging floors (e.g., 33rd, 66th) where local elevators serviced the individual floors in between staging floors.
If we assume unspent, unignited jet fuel went down the conduit of an elevator shaft TO THE GROUND FLOOR [where injuries appeared and damage was observed], then damage and explosions could have happened and been observed in lots of areas along the thousands of feet of elevators shaft.
The assumption is wrong, and a valient effort at coming up with a lame explanation for the explosion, burned injured victims, and lobby damage. Here is why the assumption doesn't hold.
The jet fuel was largely consumed by the fireball immediately after impact and in the first ten minutes of burning fire, according to the NIST experts. Once the wall assemblies sliced and shattered the wings, the released jet fuel went into the building through the window slits until the burning exhaust of the engines entered the space and ignited the fire ball... and any jet fuel that might got to the elevator shafts, much less started to fall down them. The assumed unignited jet fuel in the elevator shaft would not have fallen far before ignition around it ignited it.
The explosion that rocked the lobby of WTC-1/2 came from underneath, from the underground parking areas, and was timed for when the aircraft impact. Several witnesses (WTC maintenance employees) reported on the underground damage. The burn victim was coming from the lower levels.
Here's where the real disinformation creeps in. When they interviewed victims and witnesses, the questions were framed around "a fire ball" coming from the ground floor elevator doors, and the heavy-handed narrative steering that falling jet fuel got atomized and ignited late, WHEN THERE WAS NO ACTUAL FIRE BALL.
No, what burned the victims was a heat wave side-effect from a FGNW, tactical in yield, in the category of DEW, and many were deployed in tandem -- 4 per detonation level, 6-12 detontation levels. The basement one could have been a misfire. Or maybe its purpose was to knock out the fire system and its ability to service fire fighting needs.
Yes, my 9/11 hobby-horse has entered into this discussion and taken a dump on the PM OCT narrative right out of the gate.
Before the nuke naysayers have a conniption fit, FGNW in this case were late-3rd/early-4th generation nuclear by being hybrid fission-fusion with a conventional kick-starter charge to ignite the fission stage -- not designed for destruction or radiation but -- designed to generate the requisite heat for the fusion stage that then released its highly energetic neutrons in a targeted fashion (e.g., cone-shaped fanning out upwards from ignition point). Low radiation.
FACT: The USGS survey of the dust has data tables with Uranium and all of its decay elements in correlated quantities, sample-to-sample, [that their plain text explanation never mentions] that are fingerprints of a fission stage.
FACT: The tritium report was scope-limited from the onset to look at "building content" and to not look for "demolition sources", had shoddy measurement, shoddy analysis, but achieved its goal of deflecting away from the FACT that tritium in a building block for the fusion stage in nearly all FGNW, so having a lame excuse for why it was present was required.
FACT: Although tactical in yield and although 80% of the nuclear yield is in form of the targeted release of highly energetic neutrons from the FGNW's fusion stage, 20% of the yield is in the form of a heat wave, blast wave, and EMP.
'"The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser.' This is speculation by someone who wasn't even there; no flames were observed.
"The doors cracked open on the lobby and a heat wave came out and people died," would have been a more accurate statement.
"A similar observation was made in the French documentary 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film."
No, Naudet saw burn victims. My recollection, he didn't record or recall anyone actually on fire with flames. [The whole language of "flames" is PM taking license with the narrative.] But if we assume that is true, the FGNW heat wave would be sufficient, depending on distance from ignition and impediments, to ignite clothes and burn skin.
Right out of the gate, the PM effort to defend the OCT is to spin the burn victims and lobby damage (e.g., stone wall slabs cracked and knocked off walls) as the flames, as fire, as the ignition of atomized jet fuel particles that floated down the elevator shaft and amassed in such quantities there to get sparked -- by some unknown source -- to cause a fire ball in the lobby.
Thomas Pynchon: "If you can get them asking the wrong questions, you don't have to worry about the answers."
This is certainly a PM technique.
// part 2/2
x792 Maxwell C. Bridges : FGNW defined
2022-11-
Conventional explosives (and 1st and 2nd generation nuclear devices) couple their energy to the target by means of shock-waves propagating through an intervening medium, such as air, water, earth, rock, etc. FGNW are primarily very intense sources of penetrating radiation that can produce direct work on a target and thus induce a very different response.
FGNW based on low-yield thermonuclear pellets triggered by compact non-fission primaries have yields in the 1 to 100 tons range, greatly enhanced coupling to targets, enhanced prompt radiation effects, reduced collateral damage and residual radioactivity, etc.
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A first significant difference between deuterium-tritium (DT) based FGNWs and all other types of explosives is that up to 80% of the yield is in form of high-energy neutrons, so that only about 20% of the total yield contribute directly to heat and blast effects. With proper scaling, this factor of 5 difference means that a FGNW will have a factor of 5 smaller incendiary effect, and a factor {cubeRoot(5) =} 1.7 reduced blast effect -- provided [one] assumes that the energy of the neutrons will be absorbed either in the intended target, or else in a large volume of air that will not be sufficiently heated to significantly contribute to the heat and blast waves. One can therefore conclude that for a given total yield, FGNWs will have somewhat reduced collateral effects in terms of heat and blast.
...
The main effect, however, will come from the neutrons. Not just because they correspond to a circa five times larger source of energy, but because neutrons can easily penetrate inside any material where they can deposit their energy locally and produce volume heating of the material. This means that the coupling can be very high, since there is little reflection in comparison to shock waves, and little losses in comparison to surface effects where part of the absorbed energy is back-radiated or lost as kinetic energy of the ablated material.
"Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: Military effectiveness and collateral effects" by Dr. Andre Gsponer
https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0510071
+++ end quote
{mcb: The above is peer-reviewed and published in a reputable science journal.}
Depending on design goals, FGNW can have a variety of effects, particularly for high-energy neutrons and gamma-rays that are very penetrating. FGNW can:
- Generate a fireball (in air or a material).
- Launch a shockwave (in air or in a material).
- Heat the surface of a material.
- Accelerate or compress a material.
- Transfer momentum to a material.
- Heat the volume of a material.
- Energize a working material.
- Forge and project missiles.
- Form and send high-velocity jets.
- Ablate a material and produce a shock wave in it.
Collateral effects of the above list of "mechanical" and "thermodynamical" effects are non-thermo-mechanical effects, such as an electromagetic pulse (EMP) and prompt or delayed radiations.
Words like "pulverization" and "dustification" were used to describe the WTC towers' destruction. A more accurate word is "ablate". When the surface heating is sufficiently strong, the material will vaporize (i.e., "ablate") and by reaction a large pressure will be exerted, launching a shock-wave into the material.
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The above is copied from my blog entry on the subject:
http://maxwellbridges.blogspot.com/2018/02/911-fgnw-prima-facie-case.html
I came to these discussions prepared. I doubt the Belle-tards will notice, though.
//
Part 14: Political Impressions Rubbing Wrong
x794 meme : shirt right off of someone else's back
2022-09-27
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{meme: Socialists are so kind. I see them willing to donate the shirt right off of someone else's back.}
x796 Maxwell C. Bridges : if the rich get taxed more, ARE THEY EVEN GOING TO NOTICE?
2022-09-27
Who is the "someone else" who supposedly gives the donation of a shirt (to someone in need)? (a) The poor, (b) the ever shrinking middle class, or (c) the rich.
The rich -- who planted the fallacious seeds for this meme -- will do all in their power to see to it that B, the middle class, makes the forced donation despite the facts that the rich "got theirs" off of the backs of others and can most easily afford it without even noticing it.
Democratic socialism is the only rational direction for our politics that can improve individually our lives.
It means that we the people enact laws and policies that benefit, we the people. Like, let's pay for one less air craft carrier or for one less foolhardy war of aggression abroad, and instead pay medicare for all, education for all, and living wages (as the minimum wage).
Not so difficult. The money is there; we already paid for it with our taxes.
And if the rich get taxed more, ARE THEY EVEN GOING TO NOTICE? Will it have any significant negative effect on them, other than not as many homes or private jets or showy automobiles (they will still have more than others)?
Don't get duped into the age-old lie about socialism. In theory, it isn't nearly as bad as capitalism (which gave us slavery, child labor, poor working conditions, and as little as they can get away with).
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x798 Richard Owens : refuse to be some of the ones who actually help the poor
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges
I find it very interesting how the very elite Democrats who insist that we help the poor, turn around and refuse to be some of the ones who actually help the poor.
x800 Maxwell C. Bridges : not far off
2022-09-27
Dear Mr. Richard Owens, your observation of the elite Democrats is not far off, and I am in agreement. //
x802 Connie Boden Robinson : theory it sounds great
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - The problem with Socialism is that, in theory it sounds great. In practice, however, it is an unmitigated disaster. Socialism does not work. Ever. Because it ignores human nature. It is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. It raises no boats, and serves to sink the majority for the minority.
The "someone else" is the government, who is inefficient and ineffective in actually "helping" the poor, primarily because it is administered by politicians who don't give a damn about the poor or anyone else.
Not everyone who is rich became such off the backs of anyone else. The fallacy here is the idea that, in order to become rich someone else has to become poor. Don't get duped into the age-old lie about socialism; it helps no one but the Elite Establishment.
x804 Maxwell C. Bridges : replace "socialism" with "capitalism"
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, replace "socialism" with "capitalism" in what you wrote. Therein lies the truth. Because if capitalism were all so grand, why don't we have medicare for all, free education, less wars, less pollution...
The only thing in nature that resembles Capitalism is a virus, spreading until it kills its host (e.g., forests, fresh water, fresh air, living things).
The elite know this which is why they engineer down cycles.
Your complaints about socialism aren't about the theory but the practice. However, the cases that you would tend to pull up about the evils of socialism will unravel as the one-two combo of (1) corruption and (2) quite literally the agencies of the USA working feverishly behind the scenes (and sometimes with armies and bombs on the scenes) to undermine it. The true successful cases of socialism, your propaganda won't let you learn about.
Well, capitalism in theory and in practice is worse, much worse.
//
x806 Connie Boden Robinson : haven't had true free-market capitalism for decades
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - You don't understand capitalism. At all. And, we haven't had true free-market capitalism for decades. What we have right now is a mix of crony-capitalism and Fascist authoritarianism.
My complaints about socialism are based on history. Socialism has never "worked," nor would it ever. So, I have never seen true successful cases of socialism because they do not exist.
We don't have those things you mention for many of the same reasons socialism is always a failure: human nature. However, not everyone has the goal of "free" everything; I certainly don't. Because people don't value that for which they do not work. And most people don't deserve free anything.
x808 Maxwell C. Bridges : socialism failures are really examples of American Imperialism
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Lynda Bryant Work, the examples you provide of socialism failures are really examples of American Imperialism, capitalists with vested interests in undermining socialism at every turn. You can't claim something is a failure by pointing to examples where the agents and actors (and even armies) were lined up against it.
So how has socialism failed so many European countries? Why did you list them as examples?
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x810 Maxwell C. Bridges : haven't had true socialism in many countries
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, so if you admit that we haven't had a true free-market capitalism for decades, and if by the same token we haven't had true socialism in many countries (owing to American imperialism and corruption), then the discussion is tilted into grand theories but practices that were undermined so they'd failed. The discussion delves into dreams and fairy tales, and can't really be about capitalism versus socialism until the corrupting influences are addressed.
"Socialism" has been used as red-meat and button-pushing swear words, by design of the propagandists. But it isn't evil, and the left-leaning direction of socialism -- even when enacted only partially -- is the solution to oligarchy fascists who pay to promote their capitalism brand, (despite too many hypocritical examples where "welfare" was provided for the wealthy in terms of tax breaks, loan forgiveness, etc. and it was "rugged individualism" [peanuts] for everybody else.)
//
x812 Connie Boden Robinson : Socialism is evil
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - Nope, I don't agree with that at all. Socialism is evil. Socialism kills. Socialism goes against everything this country is for and about. Socialism is a lie.
x814 Maxwell C. Bridges : "capitalism" replace "socialism" in a copy-paste-edit rebuttal
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, thank you for demonstrating your inquisitive intellect, your open-mind, and your earnest search for truth. [Not.]
In rational discussion, when one participant makes a claim, the onus is on them to defend it, otherwise it is just hypnotic suggestion.
You wrote: "Socialism is evil. Socialism kills... Socialism is a lie."
Defend your proposition. And by the way, watch out that the word "capitalism" can't replace "socialism" in a copy-paste-edit rebuttal if you're too general and all hand-wavey hypnotic, okay? Don't want your own arguments used against you.
In your defense of your premise, maybe you should start by looking up and including the definition of socialism as given by many online dictionaries. (Stay away from Fox News websites._
You also wrote: "Socialism goes against everything this country is for and about."
Damn those socialist post offices, socialist public libraries, socialist first responders! Damn those socialist who shed blood, sweat, and tears to get 40 hour work weeks, sick pay, abolished child labor, and got better (e.g., less toxic) work environments!
Ironic that there are misguided right-wing fools who want to do away with the separation of church and state and want to somehow proclaim that the USA is somehow a "Christian Nation."
Of course, they were referring to gun-toting, xenophobic, racist Republican Christians and not to the person and ideals of Jesus, a socialist at heart.
//
x816 Connie Boden Robinson : think libraries and first responders have anything to do with the founding of this country
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - I don't have to defend anything, history does that for me. The fact that you think libraries and first responders have anything to do with the founding of this country, or that "separation of church and state" is actually a thing displays your abject ignorance of history and the Constitution. Oh, and Jesus was not a socialist, and would soundly condemn socialism. In fact, he did.
x818 Maxwell C. Bridges : Bible chapter and verse
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, You make a claim; you defend the claim. You wrote: "Oh, and Jesus was not a socialist, and would soundly condemn socialism. In fact, he did."
Bible chapter and verse, please, of where Jesus condemned socialism by name.
Maybe you'll find a passage where Jesus violently threw out the money-changers from the temple... Oh wait, those guys he threw out were capitalists.
Or perhaps you'll locate the passage about the loafs and fish. Except, that seems to be encouraging socialism.
Study the meme about history and then try to tell me: "I don't have to defend anything, history does that for me." Yeah, right.
Even when the discussion is narrowed to socialism in various Latin and South American countries, it was the corrupting influence of external capitalists (e.g., USA) on those foreign governments that greased the way to "that brand of socialism's downfall". If you don't recognize that history, you expose a major blind-spot in your education that to this day continues to dupe you.
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x820 Maxwell C. Bridges : free market mythology
2022-09-27
Check out what makes good capitalists!
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x822 Connie Boden Robinson : socialism goes against all Jesus' teachings
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - FACT: Your opinion isn't.
Here's another fact for you: It is not necessary for me to quote chapter and verse in the Bible to prove Jesus was not a socialist, because socialism goes against all Jesus' teachings. Rather, it is you who needs to try to prove Jesus was a socialist, which you can never do. Because he wasn't. The teachings of Jesus do not instruct people to help others through 'government'. It is the responsibility of the individual, which socialism takes out of the equation.
The bottom line is, your opinion, and that's all it is, does not equate to fact.
x824 Maxwell C. Bridges : make claims that you go out of your way to NOT defend
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, You are not discussing in good faith. You make claims that you go out of your way to NOT defend, despite the onus being on you to make your case. You're such a good Republican Christian, you can't even offer one biblical chapter and verse to substantiate your claims. And this in the light of the fact that web-based bibles even let you search them for all occurrences of words, like "socialism". Nor could you recite a Sunday School lesson with stories of Jesus being against socialism.
You are insincere.
Among your failings at understanding is that we, the people, are in charge of our government, or should be. Given the ruthlessness of capitalism in the exploitation of individuals at the middle and lower classes and us being without much extra means to assist the downtrodden, the government via a voted-in socialist agenda would attack the spoils of capitalism by rightful taxation on the rich [whose standard of living will hardly experience a glitch] and re-distribute the proceeds to benefit a larger swath of us, "we, the people", rather than oligarchs, the military industrial complex, etc.
Medicare of all, free education, a living minimum wage, ranked-choice-voting, publicly funded elections. These are things "we, the people" want, need, deserve, and can have, were it not for the duping. Although they are a socialist's agenda, they are also yours... If you were rational and sincere.
BOT-TEST: Get me a biblical chapter and verse, whether or not substantiating your claim, but prepare for ridicule if it does not.
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x826 Connie Boden Robinson : ZERO facts or backup to your ignorant claims that socialism is "good."
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - No, those are things you the Socialist want. Do not presume to speak for the people. And, BTW Skippy, I'm not a Republican. So much for your bullshit ASSumptions.
The onus is not on me, it is on you. And you have provided exactly ZERO facts or backup to your ignorant claims that socialism is "good." I am far more rational and good than you are, because I live in the world of reality, instead of your utopian fantasy that could only exist on earth if every person truly believed in and followed Jesus Christ.
Take your BOT-TEST and shove it where the sun don't shine, Honey. I owe you nothing, especially in light of the fact that you have provided zip to support your nonsense.
x828 Maxwell C. Bridges : insincere participation is no longer required
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, Ah, shucks. You failed the bot test. Yes, you do not owe me anything. But you do owe the latter-day lurker readers of the thread something, as well as yourself. You made boastful claims that you can't defend or substantiate beyond hypnotic suggestion.
For shame bringing up Jesus's name yet being monumentally unable to provide a single chapter/verse quotation from the same. Geez, you could have just as easily googled your favorite biblical saying, like this one from Jesus.
"He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much." Luke 16:10
Ooops. That quote reflects poorly on you, in all the small things that you have been "unjust in the least" by not defending your "hypnotic suggestion."
Because you are a Republican Christian, meaning: "hypocrite." And a bot.
In any event, you are insincere in your participation exhibited by not defending your premise with nothing but propaganda and slogans, no thought or depth or proof of perception. Shallow. Bot.
Run along, dear bot. Your agenda-toting and insincere participation in this forum is no longer required.
//
x830 Connie Boden Robinson : insincere jackals
2022-09-27
Maxwell Bridges - Not unable, Skippy. Just unwilling to respond to your demands for substantiation when you have provided none. You call me a bit when, in reality, you are the insincere jackals. My participation in this forum is certainly not dependent on your approval, and your opinion of me matters less than you can imagine.
x832 Maxwell C. Bridges : in no ways substantiates or supports your hypnotic suggestion about the evils of a so-called political leaning
2022-09-27
Dear Ms. Connie Boden Robinson, Your deflection is noted and that it in no ways substantiates or supports your hypnotic suggestion about the evils of a so-called political leaning.
Certainly you are unwilling, but mostly unable to defend yourself, your premise, your contention. What audacity you exhibit when you invoke Jesus's name but can't even do a Google on his words -- any words, much less those that would make your bot arguments -- that could indicate you've even opened the good book!!!
Go away, little bot. Maketh thou no more comments aimed in my general direction, for they reeketh of farts and not reasoned, rational thought.
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Part 15: RFK, Jr. and The Real Dr. Fauci
x834 Maxwell C. Bridges : The Real Anthony Fauci: The movie
2022-10-20
2022-10-20
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x836 Wayne Boyd : saved thousands possibly millions of lives
2022-10-20
Brilliant man that's saved thousands possibly millions of lives
That's the truth
x838 Maxwell C. Bridges : *wink* You'll really enjoy the movie.
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, that is a very dubious claim. Leads me to believe that you haven't read the book that the movie is based on. Well, I won't spoil the surprise. *wink* You'll really enjoy the movie. But probably not as much as I enjoyed the book.
Here's a hint, the history of Dr. Fauci going back to AIDS tells a different story about the "millions of lives saved", which is a dubious claim anyway. From COVID alone and assuming no pre-existing comorbidites (like obesity, heart issues, old age), the death rate of COVID was astronomically small in healthy people (and youth), a really bad flu gone wrong.
And all of the marketing for the brand-new technology vaccine at version one-dot-oh (that Fauci has financial stakes in) talked about (1) immunization against catching COVID and (2) reduction of transmission, two goals that the covid vaccine DID NOT ACHIEVE. Even boosted, Covid still spread and people still got it.
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x840 Wayne Boyd : Reagan allowed men to just die
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges he was appointed because of his work with aids which was a refreshing change after Reagan allowed men to just die
He's been great as head of the cdc and it was trump that ignored him so try looking in that direction
x842 Maxwell C. Bridges : giving voice to the doctors and scientists who were censored sources
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, You might not think Fauci and the CDC so wonderful after you start plowing through RFK Jr.'s book, or maybe watching this video.
It isn't quite correct for me to be plugging RFK, because really all his book is doing is giving voice to the doctors and scientists who are / were front-lines, know what they are talking about, substantiate their views, but were none-the-less censored and suppressed by the Fauci guggernaut.
Because the collection exists in RFK's book that you can read yourself, I don't need to be arguing specifics here.
//
x844 Wayne Boyd : cooked antivaxer lol
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges RFK ? That cooked antivaxer lol 😂
x846 Wayne Boyd : just convinces me further
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges that just convinces me further
Always do the opposite of what RFK says lol 😂
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x848 Maxwell C. Bridges : As if your reply had any meaning or significance
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Oh wow! As if your reply had any meaning or significance. The very definition of ad hominem against RFK. And it outs you as not having really read my previous reply. It isn't RFK whom you should be attacking (to achieve your boot-licking); it is the collection of scientists who contributed to his book. They wrote so much of it and gave so much feedback, it is hard to tell what comes from whom (except where quotations and their references are provided.)
At any rate, before you can really talk knowledgably on the subject of vaccines and the true political state of the "science", you've got several hundred pages to read.
Chop, chop.
//
x850 Wayne Boyd : listen to some tin foil hat wearing cooker
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges no I'll rather follow medical science than listen to some tin foil hat wearing cooker
Get some science up you bro
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x852 Maxwell C. Bridges : Kindly return to the curer-tard forum
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, clearly your reading comprehension sucks. Let me repeat, RFK's book collects the work of scientists and doctors, many highly regarded. So therefore, you should have no problem reading the book.
That your only rebuttal is to mischaracterize it and then call it "some tin foil hat wearing cooker" does not reflect well on your ability to debate.
You've identified yourself as closed-minded, ignorant, and a boot-licker. Kindly return to the curer-tard forum. Debate me there, if you want. Post something and tag me. Maybe I'll respond.
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x854 Wayne Boyd : collects the work of faux scientists
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges no it collects the work of faux scientists and antivax cookers like your self
Disinformation is deadly
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x856 Maxwell C. Bridges : Defend your claim. Or go away.
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, You made the claim that RFK's books "collects the work of faux scientists and antivax cookers." Defend your claim. Or go away.
I am already being generous, because you said "faux scientists and antivax cookers like (myself)". Well, let me burst your bubble that not a single sentence of RFK's book comes from me. I just saved you a whole lot of embarrassment by not poking a hole into that faulty logic of yours and a deliberate false statement.
No, don't worry about quotes from me in the book, because there aren't any.
You need to go about proving "faux scientists" were quoted in the book. He has endnotes to each chapter that are extensive.
Hop to it! Chop, chop.
P.S. Take the whole weekend to do your research. I have RFK on Kindle. Not as easy to skip around, but you'll make do.
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x858 Wayne Boyd : bet they are all dodgey af
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges has it been peer reviewed ?
Name the scientists and doctors he references
I bet they are all dodgey af
x860 Maxwell C. Bridges : you're trying to give a book report without having even smelt the book's crack
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Don't be assigning me busy work. The line drawn in the sand that you must cross is review of the book. The credentials of its quoted and referenced scientists is rather extensive.
Your problem is that you're trying to give a book report without having even smelt the book's crack, or seen its letters displayed on your kindle. And it shows.
Why don't you do some googling (not of yourself)? Maybe you'll get lucky and find the book report (negative or positive) of someone who actually read it. With some more effort, you'll be able to name all of his referenced scientists and doctors. (Or watch the movie mentioned above when it comes out.)
To answer your question, yes, all of the references to science were peer reviewed well before they even made it into RFK's book.
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x862 Wayne Boyd : tell me what medical journals they were published in
2022-10-20
Maxwell Bridges isn't that where you cookers get all your medical advise from
Only you don't use google it's duck duck go isn't it ?
If they were peer reviewed can you tell me what medical journals they were published in and who were the medical experts that verified his work?
This would of been truly ground breaking and we all remember what happened to mr Wakefield when he tried to fabricate evidence don't we ??
x864 Maxwell C. Bridges : Don't be assigning me busy work you'll promptly ignore
2022-10-20
Dear Mr. Wayne Boyd, Please explain your definition of "cooker." Else, we have a fundamental misunderstanding. When I cook, I get advice from recipes. I do not take my medical advice from food recipes either.
You wrote: "If they were peer reviewed can you tell me what medical journals they were published in and who were the medical experts that verified his work?"
1. What part of "Don't be assigning me busy work" do you not understand. There are so many doctors and medical professionals who directly contributed content to RFK's book, you haven't identified a single one, let alone one that might be fraudulent.
2. The line drawn in the sand is review of the book. If you're too lazy, find on the internet someone else's (detailed) review of the book, and if you agree with the review, pasted its arguments here.
3. It turns out, if you had the book and saw a quotation from a doctor, many times that quotation came DIRECTLY OUT OF A MEDICAL JOURNAL PEER-REVIEWED BY MEDICAL EXPERTS. Worse, the end notes of the chapter where the quotation appeared specified exactly the Journal, its publication date, and even the page number if applicable.
4. Often the medical experts who verified his/her work many times had their own professional affiliation on one of the many research teams that Dr. Fauci funds, as often did the scientist who authored the work. Just the fact that "they made the team" (and YOU never will) testifies to their credentials.
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